ELV Max! Heating control system

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Re: ELV Max! Heating control system

Post by Westcott »

I can't remember how I did it, but this might help -

http://www.domoticz.com/forum/viewtopic ... 638#p22638
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Re: ELV Max! Heating control system

Post by jorishp »

do you have the same files for basexx? :oops:

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pi@raspberrypi ~ $ lua max.lua 
lua: max.lua:2: module 'basexx' not found:
	no field package.preload['basexx']
	no file '/usr/local/share/lua/5.2/basexx.lua'
	no file '/usr/local/share/lua/5.2/basexx/init.lua'
	no file '/usr/local/lib/lua/5.2/basexx.lua'
	no file '/usr/local/lib/lua/5.2/basexx/init.lua'
	no file './basexx.lua'
	no file '/usr/share/lua/5.2/basexx.lua'
	no file '/usr/share/lua/5.2/basexx/init.lua'
	no file './basexx.lua'
	no file '/usr/local/lib/lua/5.2/basexx.so'
	no file '/usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/lua/5.2/basexx.so'
	no file '/usr/lib/lua/5.2/basexx.so'
	no file '/usr/local/lib/lua/5.2/loadall.so'
	no file './basexx.so'
stack traceback:
	[C]: in function 'require'
	max.lua:2: in main chunk
	[C]: in ?
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Re: ELV Max! Heating control system

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Yes - I have

/usr/local/share/lua/5.2/basexx.lua
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ELV Max! Heating control system

Post by mvzut »

I got exactly the same output as jorishp.
Turned out that the files we need are not in /usr/local/share/lua/5.2 but in /usr/local/share/lua/5.1/ So this is what I did:

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pi@raspberrypi ~ $ sudo cp /usr/local/share/lua/5.1/*.lua /usr/local/share/lua/5.2
And this is the result:

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pi@raspberrypi ~ $ lua test.lua                                                                                                                
L=CxMOQwkSGAAYAAAADBIYAAkSGAQYAAAAnQwSF58JEhgEGAAAAJkLExCVCRIYABgAAAA=                                                                         
Len=12  Adr=130E43      batt=0  bst=0   mode=1                                                                                                 
Valve pos=0     Setpoint=12     Temp=0                                                                                                         
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Not sure why the files were not installed in 5.2 and if simply copying them from 5.1 to 5.2 is a smart thing to do, but at least it seems to work now!

What I don't understand yet: I have two wall thermostats and two radiator valves, and I thought the L-message should give some kind of device list, but I don't see that in the output?! I read some interesting info at https://github.com/Bouni/max-cube-protocol, but I still don't really get the function of the L: message.

Is your output completely different? I guess we need to decode the C: messages too to get the real device data?
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Re: ELV Max! Heating control system

Post by blackdog65 »

Hiya,
I get a similar output as mvzut

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L=CxOGXgkSGAAnAAAADBNwhAkSGAEnAAAAyQsThi8JEhgAJwAAAAwJbJ4JEhgAJwAAAMwME3A1CRIYAScAAADMCw646AkSGAAnAAAA
Len=12	Adr=13865E	batt=0	bst=0	mode=1
Valve pos=0	Setpoint=19.5	Temp=0
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Re: ELV Max! Heating control system

Post by Westcott »

Thanks to both of you for persevering!.
Your L= data is perfect.
Here is a new version with much improved decoding.
It'll also print the M= data, so I can get your device names.
New code below -

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package.loadlib("core.so", "*")
local socket = require "socket"
local basexx = require "basexx"

--MaxIP='172.16.176.26'
MaxIP='KEQ0817132' -- Your Cube's IP name
MaxPort=62910

function maxCmd_H(data)
--	print('H='..data)
end

function maxCmd_M(data)
	print('M='..data)
end

function maxCmd_C(data)
--	print('C='..data)
end

function maxCmd_L(data)
print('L='..data)
	pos = 1
	dec = basexx.from_base64(data)
	L_hex = basexx.to_hex(dec)
	L_len = string.len(L_hex)

	while (pos < L_len) do -- Extract the data for one device at a time

		s = L_hex:sub(pos,(pos+1))
		data_len = tonumber(s,16) + 1
		hex = L_hex:sub(pos,pos+(data_len*2))
		valve_adr  = hex:sub(3,8)
		valve_info = tonumber(hex:sub(13,14),16)
		batt = bit32.extract(valve_info,7,1)
		bst  = bit32.extract(valve_info,3,1)
		mode = bit32.extract(valve_info,0,2)
		
		if (batt==0) then sbat="OK" else sbat="Low" end
		if (mode==0) then smode="Auto" elseif (mode==1) then smode="Manual"
		elseif (mode==2) then smode="Holiday" elseif (mode==3) then smode="Boost" end
		
	print("Len="..data_len, "Adr="..valve_adr, "batt="..sbat, "mode="..smode, "bst="..bst)

		if (data_len == 13) then	-- WallMountedThermostat (dev_type 3)
			s = hex:sub(17,18)
			setpoint = tonumber(s,16) / 2
			s = hex:sub(25,26)
			temp = tonumber(s,16) / 10
	print("Thermostat setpoint="..setpoint, "Temp="..temp)
		elseif (data_len == 12) then -- HeatingThermostat (dev_type 1 or 2)
			s = hex:sub(15,16)
			valve_pos = tonumber(s,16)
			s = hex:sub(17,18)
			setpoint = tonumber(s,16) / 2
			s = hex:sub(21,22)
			temp = tonumber(s,16) / 10
	print("Valve pos="..valve_pos, "Setpoint="..setpoint, "Temp="..temp)
		end
		pos = pos + (data_len*2)
	end
	
end

local tcp = socket.connect(MaxIP, MaxPort)

if not tcp then
	print("Socket connect failed for "..MaxIP..':'..MaxPort)
	return
end

tcp:settimeout(2)

while true do
    s, status, partial = tcp:receive()
	
    if (status) then
		print("TCP receive - "..status)
		break
	end
		
    local line = (s or partial)
	local cmd  = line:sub(1,1)
	local data = line:sub(3)
	
	if (cmd == 'H') then
		maxCmd_H(data)
	elseif (cmd == 'M') then
		maxCmd_M(data)
	elseif (cmd == 'C') then
		maxCmd_C(data)
	elseif (cmd == 'L') then
		maxCmd_L(data)
		break
	end
end

tcp:close()
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Re: ELV Max! Heating control system

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Looks promising!

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M=00,01,VgIDAQlCZWRyb29tLTEThl4CCVNpdHRpbmdSbQ646AMHS2l0Y2hlbhOGLwYDE3CETUVRMDg1NjQzNQpXYWxsU3RhdC0xAQEThl5NRVExNDY3NjQzCVJhZGlhdG9yMQEDCWyeS0VRMDQ5OTEwNwpXYWxsU3RhdC0xAgEOuOhMRVEwMDUyNjc5ClJhZGlhdG9yLTECAxNwNU1FUTA4NTY1MTYKV2FsbFN0YXQtMQMBE4YvTUVRMTQ2NzY5NQpSYWRpYXRvci0xAwE=
L=CxOGXgkSGAAnAAAADBNwhAkSGAEnAAAA0AsThi8JEhgAJwAAAAwJbJ4JEhgAJwAAAMoME3A1CRIYAScAAADKCw646AkSGAAnAAAA

Len=12	Adr=13865E	batt=OK	mode=Auto	bst=1
Valve pos=0	Setpoint=19.5	Temp=0

Len=13	Adr=137084	batt=OK	mode=Auto	bst=1
Thermostat setpoint=19.5	Temp=20.8

Len=12	Adr=13862F	batt=OK	mode=Auto	bst=1
Valve pos=0	Setpoint=19.5	Temp=0

Len=13	Adr=096C9E	batt=OK	mode=Auto	bst=1
Thermostat setpoint=19.5	Temp=20.2

Len=13	Adr=137035	batt=OK	mode=Auto	bst=1
Thermostat setpoint=19.5	Temp=20.2

Len=12	Adr=0EB8E8	batt=OK	mode=Auto	bst=1
Valve pos=0	Setpoint=19.5	Temp=0
So... 6 devices show up, 3 stats and 3 valves. Looks like we'll have to re-install one at a time (when your script is all running ok :D ) and rename one by one... which has to be done with Maxbuddy anyway, so no biggy.

Good work so far Matey! :D
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Re: ELV Max! Heating control system

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Thanks for the data, BD.
Decoding the new M= data will take a little while, so remember to breathe occasionally, please!
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Westcott wrote:Thanks for the data, BD.
Decoding the new M= data will take a little while, so remember to breathe occasionally, please!
Most welcome, but I'll be away for a fortnight, so no help for a while. ;)

You have to realize that the intelligent control of the heating system is THE most important and exciting part of Domoticz for Mrs. BD :lol: :roll:

I was on the verge of switching to Honeywell EvoHome as I'd had no real success with z-wave, so getting full-on control of ELV Max! is a right result!

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Looks good! Keep up the good work!

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Re: ELV Max! Heating control system

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pi@raspberrypi ~ $ lua test.lua                                                                                                                
M=00,01,VgICAQtLYW1lciBOaWVscxMOQwIMU3R1ZGVlcmthbWVyExCVBAMSF59NRVEwODUzNDQ2F1RoZXJtb3N0YWF0IGthbWVyIE5pZWxzAQETDkNNRVExNDQ0NzAzGVJhZGlhdG9ya3J
hYW4ga2FtZXIgTmllbHMBAxIYAE1FUTA4NTMzMzYYVGhlcm1vc3RhYXQgc3R1ZGVlcmthbWVyAgETEJVNRVExNDQzODY4GlJhZGlhdG9ya3JhYW4gc3R1ZGVlcmthbWVyAgE=          
L=CxMOQwkSGAAYAAAADBIYAAkSGAQYAAAAmAwSF58JEhgEGAAAAJkLExCVCRIYABgAAAA=                                                                         
Len=12  Adr=130E43      batt=OK mode=Auto       bst=1                                                                                          
Valve pos=0     Setpoint=12     Temp=0                                                                                                         
Len=13  Adr=121800      batt=OK mode=Auto       bst=1                                                                                          
Thermostat setpoint=12  Temp=15.2                                                                                                              
Len=13  Adr=12179F      batt=OK mode=Auto       bst=1                                                                                          
Thermostat setpoint=12  Temp=15.3                                                                                                              
Len=12  Adr=131095      batt=OK mode=Auto    
Nice, these are indeed my two thermostats and two control valves!
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Re: ELV Max! Heating control system

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Thanks for the data!
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Re: ELV Max! Heating control system

Post by Westcott »

Some new code.
This fully decodes device names and status data.
It is only a small step to actually updating Domoticz devices.

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package.loadlib("core.so", "*")
local Socket = require "socket"
local Basexx = require "basexx"

--MaxIP='172.16.176.26'
local MaxIP = 'your IP name'
local MaxPort = 62910

local Rooms   = {}
local Devices = {}

function maxCmd_H(data)
--	print('H='..data)
end

function maxCmd_M(data)
	i = 0
	j = 0
	
    while true do    -- find 'next' comma
      i = string.find(data, ",", i+1)
      if not i then break end
	  j = i
    end
	
	s   = data:sub(j+1)
	dec = Basexx.from_base64(s)
	num_rooms = string.byte(dec,3)
	pos=4
	
	for i=1, num_rooms do
		room_num = string.byte(dec, pos)
		name_len = string.byte(dec, pos+1)
		pos  = pos+2
		name = dec:sub(pos, pos+name_len)
		pos  = pos+name_len
		adr  = Basexx.to_hex(dec:sub(pos, pos+2))
		Rooms[adr] = name
		pos = pos+3
	end
	
	print("Rooms\n-----")
	for adr, name in pairs(Rooms) do 
		print(name, adr)
	end
	
	num_devs = string.byte(dec, pos)
	for i=1, num_devs do
	
		dtype = string.byte(dec, pos+1)
		adr   = Basexx.to_hex(dec:sub(pos+2, pos+4))
		snum  = dec:sub(pos+5, pos+14)
		name_len = string.byte(dec, pos+15)
		pos  = pos+16
		name = dec:sub(pos, pos+name_len)
		pos  = pos+name_len
		room_num = string.byte(dec, pos)
		Devices[adr] = name
	end
	
	print("\nDevices\n-------")
		for adr, name in pairs(Devices) do 
		print(name, adr)
	end

end

function maxCmd_C(data)
--	print('C='..data)
end

function maxCmd_L(data)
print("\nDevice status\n-------------")
	pos = 1
	dec = Basexx.from_base64(data)
	L_hex = Basexx.to_hex(dec)
	L_len = string.len(L_hex)
	
	while (pos < L_len) do

		s = L_hex:sub(pos,(pos+1))
		data_len  = tonumber(s,16) + 1
		hex  = L_hex:sub(pos,pos+(data_len*2))
		adr  = hex:sub(3,8)
		name = Devices[adr]
		if not name then name=adr end
		valve_info = tonumber(hex:sub(13,14),16)
		batt = bit32.extract(valve_info,7,1)
		bst  = bit32.extract(valve_info,3,1)
		mode = bit32.extract(valve_info,0,2)
		
		if (batt==0) then sbat="OK" else sbat="Low" end
		if (mode==0) then smode="Auto" elseif (mode==1) then smode="Manual"
		elseif (mode==2) then smode="Holiday" elseif (mode==3) then smode="Boost" end
		
		if (data_len == 13) then	-- WallMountedThermostat (dev_type 3)
			valve_pos = -1
			s = hex:sub(17,18)
			setpoint = tonumber(s,16) / 2
			s = hex:sub(25,26)
			temp = tonumber(s,16) / 10
			dtype = "Thermostat"
		elseif (data_len == 12) then -- HeatingThermostat (dev_type 1 or 2)
			s = hex:sub(15,16)
			valve_pos = tonumber(s,16)
			s = hex:sub(17,18)
			setpoint = tonumber(s,16) / 2
			s = hex:sub(21,22)
			temp = tonumber(s,16) / 10
			dtype = "Valve    "
		end
print(dtype, name, "Setpoint="..setpoint, "Temp="..temp, "Valve pos="..valve_pos, "Battery="..sbat, "Mode="..smode)
		pos = pos + (data_len*2)
	end
end

local tcp = Socket.connect(MaxIP, MaxPort)

if not tcp then
	print("Socket connect failed for "..MaxIP..':'..MaxPort)
	return
end

tcp:settimeout(2)

while true do
    s, status, partial = tcp:receive()
	
    if (status) then
		print("TCP receive - "..status)
		break
	end
		
    local line = (s or partial)
	local cmd  = line:sub(1,1)
	local data = line:sub(3)
	
	if (cmd == 'H') then
		maxCmd_H(data)
	elseif (cmd == 'M') then
		maxCmd_M(data)
	elseif (cmd == 'C') then
		maxCmd_C(data)
	elseif (cmd == 'L') then
		maxCmd_L(data)
		break
	end
end

tcp:close()
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Re: ELV Max! Heating control system

Post by mvzut »

I get:

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pi@raspberrypi ~ $ lua test.lua                                                                                                                
Rooms
-----
Studeerkamer   131095
Kamer Niels    130E43

Devices
-------
Thermostaat studeerkamer       121800
Thermostaat kamer Niels        12179F
Radiatorkraan studeerkamer     131095
Radiatorkraan kamer Niels      130E43

Device status
-------------
Valve           Radiatorkraan kamer Niels      Setpoint=12     Temp=0  Valve pos=0     Battery=OK      Mode=Auto
Thermostat      Thermostaat studeerkamer       Setpoint=12     Temp=15.3       Valve pos=-1    Battery=OK      Mode=Auto
Thermostat      Thermostaat kamer Niels        Setpoint=12     Temp=15.7       Valve pos=-1    Battery=OK      Mode=Auto
Valve           Radiatorkraan studeerkamer     Setpoint=12     Temp=0  Valve pos=0     Battery=OK      Mode=Auto
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Nice progress! The valve positions at the thermostat are "-1", what does that mean? What do valve positions mean at all for thermostats (since they don't even have a valve)?

Thanks for your hard work! When I have time, I will start integrating this in my multi-room script that controls my boiler based on the status of the Max! valves. I currently use Max! Buddy for that, but this is not ideal. Once in a while, Max! Buddy doesn't find my Cube after a restart of my Pi, which has lead to undesired situations. Moreover, it seems overkill to have so many programs and scripts running in the background, basically just to switch on my boiler when one of the valves is >0 and the boiler is not on. Your work has made it possible for me to significantly simplify my setup!

Next great step would be if we could also change the setpoint of the thermostats. Do you have an idea how to achieve that?
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Re: ELV Max! Heating control system

Post by Westcott »

Hi Mvzut,

Thanks for the kind words!
Valve position -1 means it does not have a valve, it is just for debug printing porpoises.
When I get my replacement Cube I can work on sending data TO valves.
Also need to discover why nobody else's valves send their actual temperatures. Mine does.
Possibly valve firmware versions?
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Re: ELV Max! Heating control system

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Westcott wrote:Hi Mvzut,

Thanks for the kind words!
Valve position -1 means it does not have a valve, it is just for debug printing porpoises.
When I get my replacement Cube I can work on sending data TO valves.
Also need to discover why nobody else's valves send their actual temperatures. Mine does.
Possibly valve firmware versions?
I think I read somewhere that the valves DO send their actual temperatures, but only after they have received a new setpoint, and for a limited amount of time. Probably they go into a low power mode to save battery. I'll check if this is true when I have some time.
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Re: ELV Max! Heating control system

Post by Skippiemanz »

i thought that the valves only send there temp when the valves are in motion.

But maybe i'm wrong. I sure hope so ;)
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Re: ELV Max! Heating control system

Post by mvzut »

Skippiemanz wrote:i thought that the valves only send there temp when the valves are in motion.

But maybe i'm wrong. I sure hope so ;)
Just checked, and I can confirm that the valves indeed only briefly report the actual temperature when they just received a new setpoint.
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Re: ELV Max! Heating control system

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I saw a script somewhere else once where the author
"asked" a valve for it's position by setting a different set point temporarily and then immediately setting it back to the original value. Sorry I don't remember where though!

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Re: ELV Max! Heating control system

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Thanks Meza, that's a neat trick.
I'll try it when my Cube reappears.
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