Thermostat "Spirit Z-Wave Plus"

For Z-Wave related questions in Domoticz

Moderator: leecollings

Post Reply
brommetje
Posts: 67
Joined: Sunday 16 February 2014 17:40
Target OS: Raspberry Pi / ODroid
Domoticz version: Beta
Location: NL
Contact:

Thermostat "Spirit Z-Wave Plus"

Post by brommetje »

Hi, after searching I found a new z wave thermostat "Spirit Z-Wave Plus" https://www.eurotronic.org/en/products/ ... -plus.html
Advantage "z wave plus" and should give the current room temperature back.

Did anyone already installed this thermostat? Is it supported?

Regards, Martin
User avatar
Eligos
Posts: 6
Joined: Tuesday 12 September 2017 7:50
Target OS: Raspberry Pi / ODroid
Domoticz version: 3.8914
Location: Germany
Contact:

Re: Thermostat "Spirit Z-Wave Plus"

Post by Eligos »

I'm also interested on this device. I think it's not a problem for domoticz with a Z-Wave controller with Z-Wave Plus and OpenZwave(OZW)

Z-Wave Plus Spec: http://www.zwave-shopping.com/en/content/13-z-wave-plus

Domoticz Z-Wave integration:
https://www.domoticz.com/wiki/Zwave
brommetje
Posts: 67
Joined: Sunday 16 February 2014 17:40
Target OS: Raspberry Pi / ODroid
Domoticz version: Beta
Location: NL
Contact:

Re: Thermostat "Spirit Z-Wave Plus"

Post by brommetje »

Thanks Eligos, still waiting on a response of eurotronic what the "UK mode" really means because I have to mount the radiator 20 cm under the ceiling of a my wifes washing room and wants to know if can mount the spirit with the led display face down. (display to the floor)
skierka
Posts: 2
Joined: Friday 13 October 2017 21:04
Target OS: Linux
Domoticz version: 3.8153
Contact:

Re: Thermostat "Spirit Z-Wave Plus"

Post by skierka »

Hello,

I am new to domoticz and Z-wave in general but I have decided to give it a try.
I have one StellaZ configured already and I have just purchased Sprint (eurotronic).
It seems to be recognized but apparently there is no possibility to set a set-point.
In additional when I compare specification to what I can see in domoticz it is quite messy.

Setup:
domoticz: 3.8153
controller: Aeotec Z-stick Gen5
Thermostat: Sprint z-wave plus (eurotronic)
Attachments
how it looks in control panel. Set-points (when set) are going back to "0"
how it looks in control panel. Set-points (when set) are going back to "0"
Screenshot-2017-10-13 OpenZWave Control Panel.png (54.75 KiB) Viewed 5782 times
micha_pr
Posts: 82
Joined: Friday 24 October 2014 12:26
Target OS: Raspberry Pi / ODroid
Domoticz version: Beta
Location: Germany, near Berlin
Contact:

Re: Thermostat "Spirit Z-Wave Plus"

Post by micha_pr »

can confirm... seems to be an OZW problem...
http://www.domoticz.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=19917
Michael Pruefer
----------------------------
http://www.zwave-review.com (German only)
http://www.SmartHome.Work (German only)
skierka
Posts: 2
Joined: Friday 13 October 2017 21:04
Target OS: Linux
Domoticz version: 3.8153
Contact:

Re: Thermostat "Spirit Z-Wave Plus"

Post by skierka »

A small update I have manually implemented changes described in...

https://github.com/OpenZWave/open-zwave/pull/1341

...re-complied open-zwave, then adjust xml files accordingly on Domoticz side and I have those thermostat supported.

Works OK with small issue that temperature reported by Thermostat seems to be inaccurate however it is shown correctly in OZW.
Anyway as you can still set a plan for Thermostat (what temperature should be set on which time) and it is handled correctly via device (only display in Domoticz seems to be wrong) I am using it.

I have no experience in GIT stuff so I have no idea how to push changes to be merged into open-zwave version.
berkens
Posts: 34
Joined: Tuesday 06 October 2015 13:03
Target OS: NAS (Synology & others)
Domoticz version: 3.8891
Location: Amsterdam
Contact:

Re: Thermostat "Spirit Z-Wave Plus"

Post by berkens »

Here a link to the factfile with XML files for manufactur and thermostat:

http://domoticz.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=21417

Grtn Ben
Windows 10 laptop, Synology DS214 + DSM6.1, Zwave.me USB, Neo CoolCam powerplugs & dual wall switches, Heiman gasdetector, Eurotronic Spirit heatvalve, Samsung SmartThings hub v2 UK
berkens
Posts: 34
Joined: Tuesday 06 October 2015 13:03
Target OS: NAS (Synology & others)
Domoticz version: 3.8891
Location: Amsterdam
Contact:

Re: Thermostat "Spirit Z-Wave Plus"

Post by berkens »

Hi Brommetje,

Here you can see a picture of the display "up-side-down".

http://domoticz.com/forum/viewtopic.php ... 76#p167176
.
Eurotronic Spirit up-side-down display
Eurotronic Spirit up-side-down display
eurotronic-upsidedown.jpg (2.1 KiB) Viewed 4783 times
Windows 10 laptop, Synology DS214 + DSM6.1, Zwave.me USB, Neo CoolCam powerplugs & dual wall switches, Heiman gasdetector, Eurotronic Spirit heatvalve, Samsung SmartThings hub v2 UK
mattsjo
Posts: 8
Joined: Saturday 13 July 2013 22:27
Target OS: -
Domoticz version:
Location: Stockholm, Sweden
Contact:

Re: Thermostat "Spirit Z-Wave Plus"

Post by mattsjo »

Hi,
I now have tree of these thermostats. I took the latest device xml from the OZW github pull request and it almost works. I'm on the latest beta (3.8922).
The problem is that the temperature and valve position are not updated automatically even if I have set it up like that. I get values if I update manually in the OZW control panel or if I enable polling.

I also don't know what the "Furnace" set point is...

Any ideas?

Device file:
https://github.com/tobiasgraf/open-zwav ... piritz.xml
Spirit devices.png
Spirit devices.png (201.13 KiB) Viewed 4413 times
/Mattias
brommetje
Posts: 67
Joined: Sunday 16 February 2014 17:40
Target OS: Raspberry Pi / ODroid
Domoticz version: Beta
Location: NL
Contact:

Re: Thermostat "Spirit Z-Wave Plus"

Post by brommetje »

@mattsjo I have the same problemen also time-outs or sometimes a dead node. I think we have to wait for an update of openzwave.
Or has someone a idea how to recompile openzwave?
ProjektC
Posts: 67
Joined: Sunday 17 December 2017 17:59
Target OS: Raspberry Pi / ODroid
Domoticz version: 4.10717
Location: Germany
Contact:

Re: Thermostat "Spirit Z-Wave Plus"

Post by ProjektC »

I bought a USB Gen5 Zwave Stick and German Spirit Zwave Plus devices.
The purchase was a mistaken purchase?
mattsjo
Posts: 8
Joined: Saturday 13 July 2013 22:27
Target OS: -
Domoticz version:
Location: Stockholm, Sweden
Contact:

Re: Thermostat "Spirit Z-Wave Plus"

Post by mattsjo »

ProjektC wrote:I bought a USB Gen5 Zwave Stick and German Spirit Zwave Plus devices.
The purchase was a mistaken purchase?
That's the combination I have. You need to patch the manufacturer_specific.xml and add the eur_spiritz.xml before you include the thermostat to Domoticz. Everything works fine except for the automatic temperature and valve position reports.

/Mattias

ProjektC
Posts: 67
Joined: Sunday 17 December 2017 17:59
Target OS: Raspberry Pi / ODroid
Domoticz version: 4.10717
Location: Germany
Contact:

Re: Thermostat "Spirit Z-Wave Plus"

Post by ProjektC »

manufacturer_specific.xml
<Product type="0003" id="0001" name="EUR_SPIRITZ Wall Radiator Thermostat Valve Control" config="eurotronic/eur_spiritz.xml"/>
<Product type="0003" id="0003" name="EUR_SPIRITZ Wall Radiator Thermostat Valve Control" config="eurotronic/eur_spiritz.xml"/>

Is it enough to delete the thermostats on Device?
Do the thermostats also have to be deleted for hardware under ZWAVE?
But I miss Light/Switch for 401
Temperature 401 is present.
201 and 301 temperature and light/switch available
Attachments
Unbenannt2.png
Unbenannt2.png (23.57 KiB) Viewed 4305 times
ProjektC
Posts: 67
Joined: Sunday 17 December 2017 17:59
Target OS: Raspberry Pi / ODroid
Domoticz version: 4.10717
Location: Germany
Contact:

Re: Thermostat "Spirit Z-Wave Plus"

Post by ProjektC »

Pics
Attachments
Unbenannt.png
Unbenannt.png (22.1 KiB) Viewed 4304 times
Unbenannt3.png
Unbenannt3.png (11.82 KiB) Viewed 4304 times
mattsjo
Posts: 8
Joined: Saturday 13 July 2013 22:27
Target OS: -
Domoticz version:
Location: Stockholm, Sweden
Contact:

Re: Thermostat "Spirit Z-Wave Plus"

Post by mattsjo »

I don't think the devices must be deleted. It should be enough to stop Domoticz and remove (or rename) the ozw cache file (ozwcfg_0xxxxxx.xml). Then restart Domoticz again and the system should pick up the proper name of the thermostats.

/Mattias


ProjektC
Posts: 67
Joined: Sunday 17 December 2017 17:59
Target OS: Raspberry Pi / ODroid
Domoticz version: 4.10717
Location: Germany
Contact:

Re: Thermostat "Spirit Z-Wave Plus"

Post by ProjektC »

I'm sending the Spirit back to Amazon.
I have now ordered the Popp thermostats.
Gabri
Posts: 2
Joined: Thursday 08 March 2018 17:50
Target OS: -
Domoticz version:
Contact:

Re: Thermostat "Spirit Z-Wave Plus"

Post by Gabri »

I tried adding the two lines to the manufacturer_specific.xml and adding the eur_spirit.xml file to /Config/eurotronic. It did not help; I still have the Dry Air/Cooling devices. BTW what is the reason that Open Z-wave's current version is still not merged into Domoticz, even the beta?

Second question: does anyone else here have range issues with the Spirit? Whenever it is not in range of the main controller the node shows up as dead and only comes alive briefly when you press a button on the device itself. I had the same problems with OpenHAB. It seems the device does not route through other nodes, at least when listening to commands (maybe it has to do with the new FLiRS mode?)

Actually, with Domoticz I think the problem is much less severe. But it's difficult to test without a working thermostat. I can only change the heating mode remotely, which mostly works. But for example "Request current stored values from device" does not work well, or at all.
brommetje
Posts: 67
Joined: Sunday 16 February 2014 17:40
Target OS: Raspberry Pi / ODroid
Domoticz version: Beta
Location: NL
Contact:

Re: Thermostat "Spirit Z-Wave Plus"

Post by brommetje »

Hi still problems with my Spirit, using Domoticz v3.8989 and OpenZWave version 1.4-2888-g54682370-dirty

If have seen that if you try to compile (but this is to difficult for me) then you get "Version 1.4-2968-g30d9f38-dirty" this include path #1387 for the Spirit.

When will be this available in a new beta version of Domoticz or do I have to compile everything myself how does this work, I am not a compiling guru?
Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest