New Aeon Labs Multisensor Gen5 not supported in OpenZwave ?

[Het-Licht]

Hello, so here's my first post on this Domotics forum. All new to programming and the Raspberry but I'm already liking it.

After fiddeling with my new Pi 2, the Aeon Z-stick and 2 Multisensors Gen 5 I got everything working but not the motion detection part. Lux. temp and humidity are working fine...
I allready searched the forum and found the Group 1 setting problem but I can't get to these settings in the Node Management - Control panel. I got the feeling that OpenZwave does not yet reconizes the new MultiSensor Gen5. In the OpenZwave folder I can find the configuration file for the 'old' MultiSensor but not the new Gen5 with Z-wave+.

Anybody an idea about this issue ? Help is highly apreciated !

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[IDavid]

Hi,

in the /domotics/Config directory there is a manufacturer_specific.xml.

Find the entry:

<Manufacturer id="0086" name="Aeon Labs">
<Product type="0000" id="0000" name="Z-Wave Extender"/>
<Product type="0001" id="0001" name="Z-Stick"/>
<Product type="0001" id="0002" name="Z-Stick S2"/>
<Product type="0001" id="0003" name="Minimote" config="aeon_labs/minimote.xml"/>
<Product type="0001" id="0007" name="Z-Stick S2 Lite"/>
<Product type="0001" id="0016" name="Key Fob" config="aeon_labs/keyfob.xml"/>
<Product type="0002" id="0001" name="Z-Stick S2"/>
<Product type="0002" id="0004" name="Door/Window Sensor" config="aeon_labs/doorwindow.xml"/>
<Product type="0002" id="0005" name="Multi Sensor" config="aeon_labs/alms.xml"/>
<Product type="0002" id="0009" name="Home Energy Meter" config="aeon_labs/hem.xml"/>
<Product type="0002" id="001c" name="Home Energy Meter G2" config="aeon_labs/hemg2.xml"/>
<Product type="0002" id="001d" name="Door/Window Sensor" config="aeon_labs/doorwindow.xml"/>
<Product type="0002" id="0036" name="Recessed Door Sensor" config="aeon_labs/recessed_doorsensor.xml"/>
<Product type="0003" id="0006" name="Smart Energy Switch" config="aeon_labs/ses.xml"/>
<Product type="0003" id="0008" name="Smart Energy Illuminator"/>
<Product type="0003" id="000a" name="Smart Energy 220V Utility Switch"/>
<Product type="0003" id="000b" name="Smart Energy Strip"/>
<Product type="0003" id="000c" name="Micro Smart Energy Switch"/>
<Product type="0003" id="000d" name="Micro Smart Energy Illuminator"/>
<Product type="0003" id="000e" name="Micro Motor Controller"/>
<Product type="0003" id="0011" name="Micro Double Switch" />
<Product type="0003" id="001a" name="Micro Switch (2nd Edition)"/>
<Product type="0003" id="001b" name="Micro Smart Energy Illuminator G2"/>
<Product type="0003" id="0012" name="Micro Smart Energy Switch G2" config="aeon_labs/ses.xml" />
<Product type="0003" id="0013" name="Micro Smart Energy Dimmer"/>
<Product type="0003" id="004b" name="Smart Energy Switch v2" config="aeon_labs/ses2.xml"/>
<Product type="0004" id="0025" name="Z-Wave Repeater"/>
<Product type="0004" id="0050" name="Siren Gen5"/>
<Product type="0002" id="004a" name="Multi Sensor G5" config="aeon_labs/alms.xml"/>
</Manufacturer>


Add the entry marked in RED. This entry is a copy of the Original Multi Sensor entry for earlier generations (<Product type="0002" id="0005"). This will give you the usual settings for the Aeon Multi sensor which are configured in the related alms.xml

Although you now can change all settings, you might need to enable the 'Sensor' switch you will get with this hardware. I'm not to sure about that.

Hope it helps.

[domotest7766]

Hello,

Same problem here. Lux, Humidity and Temperature OK with the 225 value. But no motion (I changed the default parameter "4" without any success / the default value seems to be different according to http://www.pepper1.net/zwavedb/device/640 and the old device http://www.pepper1.net/zwavedb/device/121).

And nothing in logs (OZW_Log.txt)

[Het-Licht]

Thanks for the reply. Where do you put the 225 value ? I can't find it !

[Het-Licht]

I'm a bit further than yesterday. Build the whole Raspberry SD card again from scratch but it didn't want to include the sensors again. Because I was fed up with it and it was late I left the Raspberry on.
Just tried the inclusion again and the sensors are included ! But now the Domoticz software doesn't reconize them, just as : Aeon Labs Unknown: type=0002, id=004a. Again the sensors seem to work very well (NOT) on the device page. I tried the use the Burglar entry as motion sensor but nothing happens. Anybody an idea ?

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[Het-Licht]

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[IDavid]

Hi,

Did you exclude the sensor from 'Node managment' and did you check all devices were removed? You might want to restart the server/raspberry afterwards.

After doing so, and making the changes to the manufacturer_xxxx.xml file described before, the sensor should be recognized. The only thing I changed afterwards is changing the switch type from 'On/Off' to 'Sensor'.

As a result (I tested this) the sensor switch will be active when motion is detected.
The sensor 'Alarm Level' is just a virtual switch you set to 0 (home) or 255 (away) and the alarm type switch is just a virtual switch used to notify if the alarm was caused by motion, lux change etc..

[Het-Licht]

Hi,


<Product type="0002" id="004a" name="Multi Sensor G5" config="aeon_labs/alms.xml"/>
</Manufacturer>


Add the entry marked in RED. This entry is a copy of the Original Multi Sensor entry for earlier generations (<Product type="0002" id="0005"). This will give you the usual settings for the Aeon Multi sensor which are configured in the related alms.xml

Although you now can change all settings, you might need to enable the 'Sensor' switch you will get with this hardware. I'm not to sure about that.

Hope it helps.

Thanks for this info. At first I didn't understand you, but I changed what you discribed. Now the sensor is reconized as G5 but still not working...

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[domotest7766]

Hello,

I have the same problem. Tried with the old configuration "alms.xml" but for the 4 devices created by domoticz nothing changes. Only LUX, Humidity and Temperature by configuring the parameter 101. to 225 are working.

[IDavid]

@het-licht

You still have a double entry for the aeon multi sensor in the node setup and I also see the devices twice.
I assume you only have 1 device though.

Select the node button and exclude the device, or select the node and select the option to ' remove' node. Also check then that all devices are removed for this aeon sensor. Then reboot the system.

Then try to include again from the node button.

In your case, having twice the entries messes up

Another remark, when everything works, the discovered switch device named sensor should be set to type sensor. I'm not sure what you named ' burglar' is the correct one.

As noted by other user, entry 101 in the configuration settings should be set to 225 to get reports for all other sensors. Set parameter 2000 to 720 if you want a report every 12 minutes, and select 'enable polling' if you want to receive the reports. If you don't select polling you only get results for the other sensors when motion is detected.

Be aware, depending on the 2000 parameter setting and the polling interval of your aeon s2 sensor, it takes some time to get initial results.

Don't give up. It will work eventually as has been tested in my case.

[domotest7766]

This is weird. My sensor device does not change its state at all even if I am in front of the Aeon device. Are you sure you have the Gen5 ?

Can you give a screenshot of your configuration ?

Thanks.

[IDavid]

As requested configuration of Aeon Gen5 multisensor (inside of sensor has sticker 'Multisensor Gen5, model ZW074-C)

Keep in mind configuration settings are made available by changing the manufacturer_xxx.xml file described in my previous post.

Node settings:

node management

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Configuration:

config1

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config2

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[IDavid]

In addition to previous post (I could only add 3 pictures):

Devices overview after configuratation:

devices

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Switches overview:
(The alarm sensor device type has been changed to type 'motion sensor' (default is on/off):

No motion detected:

switch off

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With motion detected

switch on

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As a result, the sensor is 'red'.

Keep in mind: parameter 3 in configuration sets the time for which sensor state is on (red colored), in this case 240 seconds. After 240 seconds, sensor is off (greyed out) until new motion is received. Parameter 4 is setting motion detection on/off.

[Dnpwwo]

If enhancing the manufacturer details works you should submit a patch request to OpenZWave so they can add it to the default config. Its a great way to give back to the open source community and everyone benefits from your investigation.

Something like this should do the trick: https://code.google.com/p/open-zwave/is ... 20Modified

[domotest7766]

Thank you very much for these screenshots. But I do not understand, I have exactly the same configuration and no motion Very strange behavior.

[IDavid]

@Dnpwwo. I have submitted the issue with OpenZWave. Thnx for the suggestion.

[Het-Licht]

Thanks iDavid, I was tinking about te same !

I have it runing now, but it takes a lot of time and patience. Have 1 sensor running now, busy with the second...

[domotest7766]

@Het-Licht

What did you do to make it work ?

[Het-Licht]

I followed the steps IDavid posted. But if you want to change the setting in/for the sensor put the sensor in awake mode by pressing the button on the back for 3 sec so it will stay awake for a while. Than you can change the settings and be patient...

Having said that, I can't get the 2nd sensor to work ! The SOB isn't reconized right, it still says Unknown in the Node page... Aaaaahg !!!!!!!!!

[Het-Licht]

Starting to get fed up with theese stupid sensors, now the sensor that seems to work fine doesn't want to reset after motion detection... Allmost 50 min now and still On...