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How to interpret the Zwave Mesh diagram ?

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Hello,
Here's an extract of my Zwave mesh diagram (focused on node 5):
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I have the following questions:

1. Sometimes, nodes are interconnected by a wide strip (like 5 and 2, or 7 and 5,
for example), sometimes by a pointer (like 1 to 5, for example). Is there a different meaning between these two symbols ?
2. What does the little parabole (anchored to the middle of node 5) mean ?

Everything is working fine for me, but I'm just wondering ... If someone knows ...

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Re: How to interpret the Zwave Mesh diagram ?

Post by Kerneldomoticz »

this is a good question , i'm interested by an explanation ! ;)
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Re: How to interpret the Zwave Mesh diagram ?

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Well, you're lucky to even see the difference in thickness :P

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Also like to know the difference in colors etc.
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Re: How to interpret the Zwave Mesh diagram ?

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There is no 'difference' in colors, its just a color, assigned by the graph (new node a new color, thats all)
When you 'hover' with your mouse on a node, you will see the which nodes that 'hovered node' can see

For example, if you hover over 5, you will see it can see/reach node 1, 2 and 7 (might be more, can not tell from this screenshot)

Some nodes are out of range of the controller (node 1), but can reach for example another node, that is able to reach 1, so that node will act as a repeater.

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Egregius wrote:Well, you're lucky to even see the difference in thickness :P

Image

Also like to know the difference in colors etc.

Whow.....
Did you win the jackpot... :-)
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Re: How to interpret the Zwave Mesh diagram ?

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Well, my screenshot was done after I hovered on node 5 to simplify the diagram ....
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Re: How to interpret the Zwave Mesh diagram ?

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I think the thickness of the lines or the numbers is random and doesn't really mean the connection is better or worse?

But nice to read along. Maybe there are some other things to mention here which I didn't know yet.
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Re: How to interpret the Zwave Mesh diagram ?

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Yet another question... Why are some sectors wider than other ones ? Does it mean anything ?
In my screenshot (see above), sectors 1 and 7 are wider than the others, f. ex.
This is also the case of the other screeshots shown in this thread.
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Something with groups..
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And:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z-Wave

Something with the network integration....
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Re: How to interpret the Zwave Mesh diagram ?

Post by Bikey »

It certainly suggests that it a graph is wider it has better reception. I have noticed that without changing the configuration the thickness actually can change over time. Usually after first inclusion it starts with thin lines that get bigger overnight.
So it looks like it might present something like the signal to noice ratio.

I can also imagine that there is a difference between incoming and outgoing signals?

Any programmer that can verify this by looking at the code?
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Best to go to amazon and buy the zwave book
Dear Gizmocuz,

Amazon shows 30+ books on Zwave when I search on that topic.... Some of them being quite expensive ...
Which one would you recommand ?

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Re: How to interpret the Zwave Mesh diagram ?

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I don't think the network heal function does anything on the connected devices.
I moved 2 fibaro wall plugs to 2 meters and in clear sight of the controller and whatever I do they don't connect directly.
How can I update the neighbours without ex-/include?
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Egregius wrote:I don't think the network heal function does anything on the connected devices.
I moved 2 fibaro wall plugs to 2 meters and in clear sight of the controller and whatever I do they don't connect directly.
How can I update the neighbours without ex-/include?
What are the polling settings of your usb controller?
And push the button on your device a few times..[ wake up ]
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What has polling to do with neighbours and routing?
I moved Fibaro Wall plugs, they're always awake.
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Egregius wrote:What has polling to do with neighbours and routing?
I moved Fibaro Wall plugs, they're always awake.
I did set my polling time shorter on my Aeon USB.
And sinds that time i did not lose my devices...
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Re: How to interpret the Zwave Mesh diagram ?

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Having the same issue over here. Nodes within 1 mtr from the controller are connecting with the repeater which is at 4 mtrs from the controller. This repeater connects to other devices etc. I would like to reroute everything too, but automatically, not making the routes myself.

FYI, the polling on my controller is set to 120. Don't know what that has to do with this, but you asked it ;)
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I don't lose connection, they're are just not linked directly to the controller. Not even after moving them to 2 meters and doing all sorts of commands in Domoticz and OZWCP.
I'm just wondering how I can rebuild the known neighbours without exlude and include.
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Post by raym »

It might be interesting to enable logging and attempting a heal again. It may reveal some clues as to what's going on.

I also think it's worth posting this question on the OZW forum. There may be a genuine bug with the network heal function.
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Re: How to interpret the Zwave Mesh diagram ?

Post by Olgmo »

Hi,

I have a node that is not connected to other nodes in the diagram, but it works OK.
How is that possible?
Now long does it take for the diagram to update to correct network?
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