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Z-Wave devices stopped responding.

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I run Domoticz 2024.2 and use an Aeotec Z-Wave stick gen5+ (zw090).
Since yesterday 4 out of 15 devices stopped working. They are all Fibaro Wall plugs type F.

Now in Domoticz I can switch them on or of and the icon changes, but the wall plug does nothing; What on is stays on and what off is stays off.
I've tried to repair the network and all of the nodes. I dis- and reconnected the Aeotec USB-stick and rebooted the server, but nothing changes.
Today the fifth Fibaro stopped working together with 2 PH-PAD02 sockets.
I got some suggestions from Fibaro on the wall plugs, but they did not help.

All I can think of is to hard reset the Aeotec and connect all z-wave devices again ( :cry: ), but I don't think that is the solution, as the stick is working like it should; I can make changes to devices and it seems they register it too, but just won't react to switch commands.
All non-z-wave devices work like before.

Another weird thing is, that the working Fibaro devices suddenly do not register power usage if I don't toggle the switch after a reset. That wasn't before yesterday.

And no, I've changed nothing in the setup for a week, other than a name change of a device.

Does somebody experienced something similar? Or have some changes I can try?
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Could be a few things:

- Your Mesh network is broken, could be because one important central wallplug is not working anymore.
I suspect you are using OpenZWave? How does the network neighborhood graph look like?

Another possible issue could be RF interference... For example a zwave (or RF 868Mhz) temperature sensor is continues transmitting a illegal signal causing a jam.
(I had this on 433Mhz once)

Why are you running such on old version? (not that this has any new changes regarding OpenZWave)
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Yes I use OpenZWave. Ik kept 2024.2 because I could not get it to work with the mqqt version. I read last week that the latest version still uses OpenZWave, so when I get my spare server back, I will try to migrate.

The chart looks like:
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The small green thing on top is a dead device, that ghosts around since this morning.

I added nothing to my network, but neighbours could have. Is there a way to track interference?
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Maybe a simple include the device
I had also this problem occasionally and when i did an include new device. It then installed as an new devices and worked again
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After multiple resets and nodes and network healing sessions, the majority of the plugs are working again, but 3 refuse to operate.
With a lot of trouble (long and extremele fast clicking on the b-button) I can connect them to the Aeotec in Domoticz, but On stays on and off stays off. The b-button does not function anymore once paired.

Fibaro helpdesk said, that changing parameter 1 , save and change it back again should reset de eprom. But when I change parameter 1 it seems to work fine, but when I refresh the settings from the node, there is nothing changed and the wall plug does not work. I guess they are dead.

€60 a piece and after little more than 2 year they kick the bucket when they are out of warranty... :-(

Are there any cheap (wifi?) wall plugs that work good with Domoticz?
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Better use zigbee instead of wifi, better secured.
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Also check if the controller (node 1) is in group 1 of the nodes (read the manual for this !!! Most times group 1 is where it reports to)

If you want to go away from ZWave, Zigbee is indeed a good alternative... You might be just a bit to soon for 'Matter'
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waltervl wrote: Saturday 09 August 2025 11:50 Better use zigbee instead of wifi, better secured.
I've looked at zigbee, but understood that that it isn't a mesh network, but a single point of access and that quite some devices don't have a powerfull transmitter enough to reach 10+ meters.

I am looking at wifi, but quite some need an app with cloud, so I am trying to find out which onces don't need a app/cloud to function. Setup is no problem, but once operational I don't want to use apps; i got Domoticz for that :-)
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gizmocuz wrote: Saturday 09 August 2025 14:50 Also check if the controller (node 1) is in group 1 of the nodes (read the manual for this !!! Most times group 1 is where it reports to)

If you want to go away from ZWave, Zigbee is indeed a good alternative... You might be just a bit to soon for 'Matter'
I checked and it is in group 1

edit: removed stupid question of me :roll:
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MikeVanD wrote: Sunday 10 August 2025 13:29
waltervl wrote: Saturday 09 August 2025 11:50 Better use zigbee instead of wifi, better secured.
I've looked at zigbee, but understood that that it isn't a mesh network, but a single point of access and that quite some devices don't have a powerfull transmitter enough to reach 10+ meters.

I am looking at wifi, but quite some need an app with cloud, so I am trying to find out which onces don't need a app/cloud to function. Setup is no problem, but once operational I don't want to use apps; i got Domoticz for that :-)
Then you did not look good enogh, it is a mesh network! See also the Domoticz wiki for this subject: https://wiki.domoticz.com/Zigbee

Most used integrations are zigbee2mqtt (with mqtt AD) and Zigbee4Domoticz (python plugin). Both integrations do not do a cloud access as they use a zigbee coördinator that can be directly connected to the Domoticz host.
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waltervl wrote: Sunday 10 August 2025 13:35 Then you did not look good enogh
Fair enough. I looked at it in a glance and thought wifi might be easier. Thnx for the links.

You know any good zigbee usb-dongles? and are there any that are prepared for Matter?
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I use a sonoff usb dongle. Check the integration you want to use what dongles are supported. I dont know about matter.
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