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Orcon Mechanical Ventilator MVS15 - 868 MHz

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Does anyone have some experience connecting a Orcon Mechanical Ventilator MVS15 to Domoticz?
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Re: Orcon Mechanical Ventilator MVS15 - 868 MHz

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With Rf or wired?
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I prefer RF but wired is an option if it can be combined with existing RF
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Orcon is close to the Itho implementation and at some point in time it might be possible to control the device via RF.
Until then you could use for example RFLink and its GPIO pins hardwired to the Orcon remote.. that way RFlink is pressing the buttons for you and you can control the system via Domoticz.
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Re: Orcon Mechanical Ventilator MVS15 - 868 MHz

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@pvangorp

I have the same Orcon at home, and I have made some progress to make an hardwired connection.

So far I did the following;
1. Purchased: additional remote control, flexible flat cable plus PCB, PiFace 2
2. Programmed a couple of thinks in Python, and I control the Orcon via the command line

There are few problems that need to be solved;

1. There is still some current leakage, as the used out connections on the PiFace 2 are constantly on, but at a very low level. This drains the battery.
2. On the Python side more work is to be done; as the outputs on the Piface 2 should send out a 1 sec pulse and go back to the off state

Maybe you, or someone on the board has an idea how to solve the first issue.
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Re: Orcon Mechanical Ventilator MVS15 - 868 MHz

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Thans for your sollution. Should be easier with RFLINK 868.

For your python:

import time

abort_after = 1
start = time.time()

while True:
delta = time.time() - start
if delta >= abort_after:
break
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Re: Orcon Mechanical Ventilator MVS15 - 868 MHz

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Thanks for the Python code. Will give it a try.

I also prefer to do this via rf 868, but as mentioned by Stuntteam this can take a long time.
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I'm no pro in reversed engineering. But there is an (I think) debug/program interface on the pcb that maybe can use to readout some data.

Is there already somebody that has try this way?
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Re: Orcon Mechanical Ventilator MVS15 - 868 MHz

Post by AlwinHummels »

It's a old toppic but i'll give it a shot ;-)

Can you provide a scheme hoe to wire what to what. and how you get it work? I have a extra rf remote what do I need more?
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I'd like to know more about automating the Orcon MVS15. Can solder wires to an extra remote, but need some guidelines what to do next. Does it need resistors, to which gpio pins, sample python code?

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I have the same machine and want to add it to my home automation.
I hope someone can share some more documentation about how he implemented it.
I search for a solution but I can't find any good example.
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Re: Orcon Mechanical Ventilator MVS15 - 868 MHz

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I too have that machine.

so i'm pinging this thread in the hopes of someone sharing a working solution....

i could go wired quite easily from the perilex switch wires and a relais setup or something like that... but i prefer an rf solution.

thanks for any reply!
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Re: Orcon Mechanical Ventilator MVS15 - 868 MHz

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I have seen this request in other forums, but no ready to use solutions for us mere mortals until I found a nice solution at tweakers (Dutch language): https://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/li ... /1806429/2
One of the users there has created a ready to use pcb that just needs clicking in and you're off, sold on tindie: https://www.tindie.com/products/hjhicki ... on-mvs-15/
I just ordered mine, so not sure how click-and-play it is, because the software/config has been created for homeassistant, but in theory it should work just fine using the MQTT autodiscovery interface. I'm betting on that.
https://github.com/hubertjanhickinson/O ... ontroller/

Just thought I'd post it here, FYI.
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Re: Orcon Mechanical Ventilator MVS15 - 868 MHz

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I think the "FAN2" type of rfx868 is not recognized by Domoticz for the moment.
In the log there is a mentioning of

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"Invalid data received!...."
With RFXmanager I get;

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13/05/2024 06:10:58:911= Get Status
------------------------------------------------
13/05/2024 06:10:58:960= 140100030255170000002003031C15720000240000
Packettype        = Interface Message
subtype           = Interface Response
Sequence nbr      = 3
response on cmnd  = Get Status
Transceiver type  = 868MHz
Firmware version  = 1023
Firmware Type     = RFX868
Noise level       = -114 dBm
Transmit power    = 10dBm
Hardware version  = 3.3  RFX433/RFX868/RFXtrx868XL
Debug             off
Alecto ACH2010    disabled
FineOffset        disabled
La Crosse         disabled
Davis EU          disabled
Davis US          disabled
Davis AU          disabled
GAPOSA            disabled
FS20              disabled
LightwaveRF       disabled
Edisio            disabled
Visonic           disabled
Meiantech         disabled
Proguard          disabled
Itho CVE RFT      disabled
Itho CVE,HRU ECO  disabled
Orcon             enabled
Itho CVE-S,HRU400 disabled
Honeywell Chime   disabled
KeeLoq            disabled
------------------------------------------------
13/05/2024 06:21:21:523= 11170C007724731120772473000000BF0000
Packettype    = FAN2
subtype       = Orcon
Sequence nbr  = 0
ID            = 772473 decimal:7808115
Destination ID= 772473 decimal:7808115
Command       = Fan speed:00 = Off
Filter?? :00  = Filter OK
Signal level  = 2  -104dBm
------------------------------------------------
13/05/2024 06:21:43:163= 11170C0176A9270730772473000000000000
Packettype    = FAN2
subtype       = Orcon
Sequence nbr  = 1
ID            = 76A927 decimal:7776551
Destination ID= 772473 decimal:7808115
Command       = Auto
Signal level  = 3  -96dBm
------------------------------------------------
13/05/2024 06:21:43:602= 11170C027724731130772473000004BB0000
Packettype    = FAN2
subtype       = Orcon
Sequence nbr  = 2
ID            = 772473 decimal:7808115
Destination ID= 772473 decimal:7808115
Command       = Fan speed:04 = Auto
Filter?? :00  = Filter OK
Signal level  = 3  -96dBm
------------------------------------------------
13/05/2024 06:22:05:511= 11170C037724731120772473000003BC0000
Packettype    = FAN2
subtype       = Orcon
Sequence nbr  = 3
ID            = 772473 decimal:7808115
Destination ID= 772473 decimal:7808115
Command       = Fan speed:03 = High
Filter?? :00  = Filter OK
Signal level  = 2  -104dBm
------------------------------------------------
13/05/2024 06:22:22:809= 11170C0476A9270130772473000000000000
Packettype    = FAN2
subtype       = Orcon
Sequence nbr  = 4
ID            = 76A927 decimal:7776551
Destination ID= 772473 decimal:7808115
Command       = Low
Signal level  = 3  -96dBm
------------------------------------------------
13/05/2024 06:22:23:569= 11170C057724731130772473000001BE0000
Packettype    = FAN2
subtype       = Orcon
Sequence nbr  = 5
ID            = 772473 decimal:7808115
Destination ID= 772473 decimal:7808115
Command       = Fan speed:01 = Low
Filter?? :00  = Filter OK
Signal level  = 3  -96dBm
------------------------------------------------
13/05/2024 06:22:49:553= 11170C0676A9270230772473000000000000
Packettype    = FAN2
subtype       = Orcon
Sequence nbr  = 6
ID            = 76A927 decimal:7776551
Destination ID= 772473 decimal:7808115
Command       = Medium
Signal level  = 3  -96dBm
------------------------------------------------
13/05/2024 06:22:50:542= 11170C077724731140772473000002BD0000
Packettype    = FAN2
subtype       = Orcon
Sequence nbr  = 7
ID            = 772473 decimal:7808115
Destination ID= 772473 decimal:7808115
Command       = Fan speed:02 = Medium
Filter?? :00  = Filter OK
Signal level  = 4  -88dBm
------------------------------------------------
13/05/2024 06:22:58:117= 11170C0876A9270330772473000000000000
Packettype    = FAN2
subtype       = Orcon
Sequence nbr  = 8
ID            = 76A927 decimal:7776551
Destination ID= 772473 decimal:7808115
Command       = High
Signal level  = 3  -96dBm
------------------------------------------------
13/05/2024 06:22:58:554= 11170C097724731120772473000003BC0000
Packettype    = FAN2
subtype       = Orcon
Sequence nbr  = 9
ID            = 772473 decimal:7808115
Destination ID= 772473 decimal:7808115
Command       = Fan speed:03 = High
Filter?? :00  = Filter OK
Signal level  = 2  -104dBm
This is First Button 'Away', Then 2 times Button 'AUTO', Button 'Timer', Button '1', Button '2', Button '3'

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Re: Orcon Mechanical Ventilator MVS15 - 868 MHz

Post by opechunka »

Also tried with RFXtrx. Received "Invalid data received!....".
But even after I changed the source code and commented out check for type pTypeFan, Domoticz detected new buttons per every Orcon button (if you press it). But they were not functional at all. While looking into Domoticz source code for Orcon support, it looks like the imlementation is not finished.
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