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Native Buienradar Hardware options
Hi,
I recently installed the new stable version of Domoticz. The first thing I noticed is the implementation of the native Buienradar hardware in Domoticz.
I now use the plugin version (Buienradar.nl (Weather Lookup)):
https://www.domoticz.com/forum/viewtopi ... buienradar
and would like to use the native version now.
The great thing about the plugin version is you get some options to choose if you want the temperature and humidity sensor separated in two devices or just one.
See the hardware tab here: The native plugin has only these options: Difference between the sensors:
For the reading in LUA and so on its easier to have separated sensors. I know as you can see in the plugin thread some people like all the information in one and others like me like the separated sensors. So if there would be an option to make the choice your selves we could server everybody.
Hope to hear something.
Greetings Brutus.
I recently installed the new stable version of Domoticz. The first thing I noticed is the implementation of the native Buienradar hardware in Domoticz.
I now use the plugin version (Buienradar.nl (Weather Lookup)):
https://www.domoticz.com/forum/viewtopi ... buienradar
and would like to use the native version now.
The great thing about the plugin version is you get some options to choose if you want the temperature and humidity sensor separated in two devices or just one.
See the hardware tab here: The native plugin has only these options: Difference between the sensors:
For the reading in LUA and so on its easier to have separated sensors. I know as you can see in the plugin thread some people like all the information in one and others like me like the separated sensors. So if there would be an option to make the choice your selves we could server everybody.
Hope to hear something.
Greetings Brutus.
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Re: Native Buienradar Hardware options
It would be a pleasure if al the sensors could be separated. At the moment I use a dZvents script to split the Temp+Hum+Baro sensor, for example. It would be more convenient to make separate sensors in the native Buienradar Hardware.
Hope this could be implemented.
Hope this could be implemented.
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Re: Native Buienradar Hardware options
I totally agree with that. The plugin version is even smart enough to supplement a missing sensor with the same sensor type from De Bilt station, although I would like to choose the station for de missing sensor myself. For example, Lelystad is much closer to me.
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Re: Native Buienradar Hardware options
Maybe the location (Latitude and Longitude) settings like in other plugin's (WU/Darksky) ?
Now the plugin is not working because 1400km seems too much for the closest location.
Now the plugin is not working because 1400km seems too much for the closest location.
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Re: Native Buienradar Hardware options
on request of "Brutus" i made a small code change allowing to split the temperature, humidity and baro sensors.
https://github.com/akamming/domoticz/tr ... rs_ability
can someone test?
You can build it using the instructions which can be found here : https://www.domoticz.com/wiki/Build_Dom ... rom_source
Just make sure, you checkout the right branch by replacing this line of the instruction on the wiki
with these 2 lines
https://github.com/akamming/domoticz/tr ... rs_ability
can someone test?
You can build it using the instructions which can be found here : https://www.domoticz.com/wiki/Build_Dom ... rom_source
Just make sure, you checkout the right branch by replacing this line of the instruction on the wiki
Code: Select all
git clone https://github.com/domoticz/domoticz.git dev-domoticz
Code: Select all
git clone https://github.com/akamming/domoticz.git dev-domoticz
git checkout split_buienradar_sensors_ability
- Brutus
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Re: Native Buienradar Hardware options
Thnx Akamming!, I've also put a request on Tweakers.net so hopefully someone could test this.akamming wrote: ↑Monday 04 May 2020 7:17 on request of "Brutus" i made a small code change allowing to split the temperature, humidity and baro sensors.
https://github.com/akamming/domoticz/tr ... rs_ability
can someone test?
You can build it using the instructions which can be found here : https://www.domoticz.com/wiki/Build_Dom ... rom_source
Just make sure, you checkout the right branch by replacing this line of the instruction on the wikiwith these 2 linesCode: Select all
git clone https://github.com/domoticz/domoticz.git dev-domoticz
Code: Select all
git clone https://github.com/akamming/domoticz.git dev-domoticz git checkout split_buienradar_sensors_ability
Greetings.
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- ILoveIOT
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Re: Native Buienradar Hardware options
Thank you, updated to 2020.2 and there its also available, thank you dev team !!!This functionality is already available in the beta channel
I noticed that the polling is maybe too quick resulting in a error, plugin is working fine, fine for me just wanna lett some know;
2020-05-04 15:29:20.228 Error: BuienRadar: Problem Connecting to Buienradar! (Check your Internet Connection!)
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Re: Native Buienradar Hardware options
this is not a polling issue, but an issue on buienradar api side. This error is caused when there is some serverside error or unavailability
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Re: Native Buienradar Hardware options
it's been working on my system quite ok for serveral days now. I made the PR (https://github.com/domoticz/domoticz/pull/4158)
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Re: Native Buienradar Hardware options
Looks more like a protection from buienradar, to avoid unnecessary client requests, seems they allow every 10min (what is allot I guess) and kill any connection sooner then 10 min, resulting in a error for us.
Here you can see the plugin works, but after 4 sec there is another new connection, 5 min later again, I believe they have a limit for the client on polling.
2020-05-12 19:53:48.606 Error: BuienRadar: Problem Connecting to Buienradar! (Check your Internet Connection!)
2020-05-12 19:58:53.549 Error: BuienRadar: Problem Connecting to Buienradar! (Check your Internet Connection!)
2020-05-12 20:03:54.263 (Buienradar) Temp + Humidity + Baro (Volkel)
2020-05-12 20:03:54.273 (Buienradar) Temp (Volkel Grond 10cm)
2020-05-12 20:03:54.283 (Buienradar) Temp (Volkel gevoel)
2020-05-12 20:03:54.292 (Buienradar) Wind (Volkel Wind)
2020-05-12 20:03:54.296 (Buienradar) General/Visibility (Zichtbaar Volkel)
2020-05-12 20:03:54.305 (Buienradar) General/Custom Sensor (Volkel Watt/M2)
2020-05-12 20:03:54.318 (Buienradar) Rain (Volkel Regen)
2020-05-12 20:03:58.860 Error: BuienRadar: Problem Connecting to Buienradar! (Check your Internet Connection!)
2020-05-12 20:09:03.898 Error: BuienRadar: Problem Connecting to Buienradar! (Check your Internet Connection!)
So my server is trying them every 5min, guess we should change it to 10-15min
Here you can see the plugin works, but after 4 sec there is another new connection, 5 min later again, I believe they have a limit for the client on polling.
2020-05-12 19:53:48.606 Error: BuienRadar: Problem Connecting to Buienradar! (Check your Internet Connection!)
2020-05-12 19:58:53.549 Error: BuienRadar: Problem Connecting to Buienradar! (Check your Internet Connection!)
2020-05-12 20:03:54.263 (Buienradar) Temp + Humidity + Baro (Volkel)
2020-05-12 20:03:54.273 (Buienradar) Temp (Volkel Grond 10cm)
2020-05-12 20:03:54.283 (Buienradar) Temp (Volkel gevoel)
2020-05-12 20:03:54.292 (Buienradar) Wind (Volkel Wind)
2020-05-12 20:03:54.296 (Buienradar) General/Visibility (Zichtbaar Volkel)
2020-05-12 20:03:54.305 (Buienradar) General/Custom Sensor (Volkel Watt/M2)
2020-05-12 20:03:54.318 (Buienradar) Rain (Volkel Regen)
2020-05-12 20:03:58.860 Error: BuienRadar: Problem Connecting to Buienradar! (Check your Internet Connection!)
2020-05-12 20:09:03.898 Error: BuienRadar: Problem Connecting to Buienradar! (Check your Internet Connection!)
So my server is trying them every 5min, guess we should change it to 10-15min

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Re: Native Buienradar Hardware options
No that is not what is happening. I poll Buienradar continuously much more frequent than this because of test / development / production and android and comparing dzVents scripts vs Python plugins and native Buienradar hardware module. All from the same IP.ILoveIOT wrote: ↑Tuesday 12 May 2020 20:30 Looks more like a protection from buienradar, to avoid unnecessary client requests, seems they allow every 10min (what is allot I guess) and kill any connection sooner then 10 min, resulting in a error for us.
So my server is trying them every 5min, guess we should change it to 10-15min![]()
Still only seeing the Problem message a couple of times a day.
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Re: Native Buienradar Hardware options
Oh ok,...typical,..I see them all the day every day.
Is there a polling time somewhere in a file that I could change for testing ?
Maybe I'am just guessing now, I got restrictions on my ipadress, Hungary IP address, not dutch
Is there a polling time somewhere in a file that I could change for testing ?
Maybe I'am just guessing now, I got restrictions on my ipadress, Hungary IP address, not dutch
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Re: Native Buienradar Hardware options
The polling times are in the source file around line 177.
Set at every 10 minutes to get the meter details and every 5 minutes to get rain prediction.
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Re: Native Buienradar Hardware options
Nice,..thank you,..I guess that's it for me, many thanks.
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Re: Native Buienradar Hardware options
Thnx Akamming! I have not found anyone who could test it for me. But thank you for changing and testing. When it's available is will test and use this in Windows.akamming wrote: ↑Tuesday 12 May 2020 20:19it's been working on my system quite ok for serveral days now. I made the PR (https://github.com/domoticz/domoticz/pull/4158)
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Re: Native Buienradar Hardware options
Since i did some development of the plugin, i also did testing with several locations and station id's. I got a lot more errors on some locations/stationid's then on other locations. so i think it is not load dependent, but station dependent...
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Gizmocus rejected the PR. I understand his reasoning (consistensy with the other weather plugins). i think he's right, for maintainability it is better to change the lua scripts...
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Re: Native Buienradar Hardware options
Don't understand this.. Buienradar is like no other plugins.

So when I want things seperated I need to extract the data from the sensor and send it in a seprated virtual sensor. Keeping things easy.
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Re: Native Buienradar Hardware options
Hi akamming, many thanks for the advise, I tried 6 at least, for me no luck (see spoiler), If I'am not the only one, maybe a future request, where we can (maybe fixed times 5-10-15-30) change the polling time in the hardware/plugin section. If could change the time, the error would go away I guess, now its fine for me, excluded the error from the syslog, shows only in Domoticz now. (I was thinking to build Domoticz from source, but its just a error, plugin is working fine)Since i did some development of the plugin, i also did testing with several locations and station id's. I got a lot more errors on some locations/stationid's then on other locations. so i think it is not load dependent, but station dependent...
Thanks, happy days !!

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