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Neo Coolcam 2-in-1 eating batteries like crazy!

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I have 2 Neo Coolcam 2-in-1 PIR/Lux sensors (Z-Wave) and they run through (very expensibe CR123A) batteries like crazy! The batteries last a WEEK at the most!
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Anyone have any suggestions where to start troubleshooting?

I'd screenshot and post the settings right now, but it's down again! Last reported battery is 37%, and it is dead! :(

If someone has these and can share their settings for me to compare to, that'd be great as well!
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My settings for the Neo CoolCam Battery Powered PIR Sensor are:

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Sensitivity Level Setting: 	12
On/Off Duration: 	30 second
Basic Set Level: 	255
PIR Detecting Function Enabled: 	
Ambient Illumination Lux Level: 	100 lux
Re-trigger Interval Setting: 	8 second
Light Sensor Polling Interval: 	360 second
Lux Level Function Enable: Disable	
Ambient illumination Lux Level Report: 	5 lux
Led Blink Enable: Disable
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Thanks, I have tried these (Just a different Lux level <G>) and it seems much better! I suspect the timers were too low, causing it to wake and send too often...

I also added an unused Z-wave plugin dimmer close to the PIR to improve the mesh network coverage, so either measure (or both combined) may have done the trick... Keeping an eye on it too see how the batteries fare!
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Not very encouraging... :(

It's only 5 days, as that's when I installed the battery plugin to track it...
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[Battery level over time - battery replaced on 28 June]
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Yup 37% again... Less than 2 weeks per CR123A! And this one was a Duracell to boot! :?: :?: :?: :o :o :o
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FearNaBoinne wrote:I have 2 Neo Coolcam 2-in-1 PIR/Lux sensors (Z-Wave) and they run through (very expensibe CR123A) batteries like crazy!!
I use rechargeable (2200mA) Li-ion batteries and they will last a few months.
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Treve wrote: Sunday 07 July 2019 23:34
FearNaBoinne wrote:I have 2 Neo Coolcam 2-in-1 PIR/Lux sensors (Z-Wave) and they run through (very expensibe CR123A) batteries like crazy!!
I use rechargeable (2200mA) Li-ion batteries and they will last a few months.
Where did you buy those? I might be interested in those, but still wondering why a Duracell CR123A only lasts ~2 weeks...
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I bought them at AliExpress, two pieces €3,94

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And yes, when they charged the voltage is 4,2 volt, but that’s not a problem for the electronics.
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FearNaBoinne wrote: Saturday 06 July 2019 20:43 Not very encouraging... :(

It's only 5 days, as that's when I installed the battery plugin to track it...
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[Battery level over time - battery replaced on 28 June]
Can you contact the seller about this? Maybe the device is broken... Just a question... they all say you can do around 1 year on 1 battery....
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Hi, I had the same issue.
After buying, a half year later battery empty. That was a chinese one.
I bought a duracell, it lasts for one month. I thougt it could be an old one or something, buyed in another store a new one, same issue.
After three duracell batteries I bought 12 https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/18271014 ... 4c4dnAp3mb cheap ones from aliexpress, and these is almost a half year in for now!

But a question to you, how do you get that battery level, I like that too.
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Is that half a year for one battery? I have ordered a 2800mAh LiIon battery, and will test with that one!

And to your question: It's a plugin called "Battery monitoring for Z-Wave nodes":
https://www.domoticz.com/wiki/Plugins/BatteryLevel.html

Found it here:
https://www.domoticz.com/wiki/Plugins
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(PS: Just wondering why there's so many Dutchies on here... :mrgreen: )



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tnx.

Note that the mah in chinese shops are mostly very incorrect :lol:
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DaWauZ wrote: Tuesday 09 July 2019 9:49 Note that the mah in chinese shops are mostly very incorrect :lol:
Really? Do you think so? I would've never guessed! :lol:
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Whelp... LiIon battery inserted... Back at 100%! Let's see! ;)
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Tracking LiIon:
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Now I see same situation here with mine... From 100% to 70% in 1 night.
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I still have to test the other Neo Coolcam that I have lying here, but the active one is now wired to DC power... I'm lucky that it is in a position where that is very easy to achieve, but it does suck that it is necessary...
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Hi lads.

I have one of these 2-in-1 in active use and battery life was always just horrible. No matter how I change the settings.
Tried with several batteries, I have other active z-wave devices around and it is to no avail.
My settings are attached.
Batteries:
LiFePo4 - Fully charged 3.6V - Working fine , will last up to a week
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Li-Ion - Fully Charged 4.2V - Will not work, seems to be resetting the device, works erratically
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Any standard CR123 works basically as long as the LiFePo4 ... a very short time...

My settings are pretty battery conscious...Illumination reporting disabled, temperature report after 0.5 deg change...

So is it just a bad design or settings?
I can't imagine what else to change...
I am thinking about getting another z-wave light bulb to improve the mesh, but can't imagine it would help much, it is about 10 meters away from my z-wave usb stick.

Anyone figured this out? Thanks in advance for any input...
1. Motion detection sensitivity: Normal

Adapt the sensitivity of the motion detection.
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2. Motion detection ON time: 300
(second) (actual: 300)

This parameter can be determined how long the associated devices should stay ON status. For instance, this parameter is set to 30(second), the PIR detector will send a BASIC_SET Command to an associated device with value basic set level if PIR detector is triggered and the associated device will be turned on 30(second) before it is turned off. This Parameter value must be large than Parameter 6#. If user set this parameter to default by Configure CC, the parameter #6 will be set to default value. Available Settings:5 to 600(second).
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3. Basic Set Level: 255
(actual: 255)

Basic Set Command will be sent, on the associated devices (group 2), where contains a value when PIR detector is triggered, the receiver will take it for consideration; for instance, if a lamp module is received the Basic Set Command of which value is decisive as to how bright of dim level of lamp module shall be. This Parameter is used to some associated devices. Available Settings: 0, 1 to 99 or 255.
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4. Motion detection function: Enable

Enable the motion detection (PIR) function. This parameter does not effect the luminance reporting.
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5. Ambient Illumination Lux Level: 0
(lux) (actual: 0)

Define the illumination level value which determines when the 'Illumination switch ON function' is activated. If the illumination level falls below this value and a person moves across or within the detected area, the motion sensor will switch on the associated device (group 2). 0 to 1000(Lux).
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6. Motion detection blind time: 8
(second) (actual: 8)

Period after motion detection in which the sensor is insensitive for new motion detection. This value must be less than the 'Motion detection ON time'. Available Settings: 1 to 8(s).
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7. Illumination reporting interval: 3600
(second) (actual: 3600)

Determine the time between illumination reports, even when value has not changed. NOTE: This Value Must Be less than Wakeup Interval Time. Available Settings: 60 ~ 36000(second).
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8. Illumination function: Disable

Enable the function to switch on a associated device (group 2) once motion has been detected and the illumination level will be less than the value specified in 'Illumination switch ON level'.
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9. Illumination report threshold: 100
(lux) (actual: 100)

This parameter defines by how much Lux Level must change, in lux, to be reported to the main controller.
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10. Ambient Temperature Differential Level Report or Led Blink Enable (0 or 1 - non-temperature version): 5
(0.1 C) (actual: 5)

This parameter is configured the value that differential between current measured and previous report value. If the differential value larger than the settings, device will report this measured temperature value to nodes associated in lifeline.
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11. Led Blink Enable (temperature reporting version): Enable

This parameter can enabled or disable the PIR led blinking function.
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12. Motion Event Report One Time Enable (temperature reporting version): Only Once

The motion detected event can be sent multiple times/only once until device report motion cleared event.
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99. Ambient Light Intensity Calibration: 5320
(actual: 5320)

This parameter defines the calibrated scale for ambient light intensity.
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2000. Wake-up Interval: 43200
(Seconds) (actual: 43200)

How often the Device will Wake up to check for pending commands
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