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Looking for z-wave (plus) smart plug 16A

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Hi all,

I recently started collecting smart plug from neo Cool cam (AliExpress). These are really easy for use with a Aeotec Stick.
But these plugs have a max of 2600W.. As I want to monitor my microwave I need a different one.. Microwave = 3400W

Who can advise me in which z-wave plug to buy??.. (price does matter)

Kind regards
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Post by blacksn0w »

Its quite hard to find something in this Watt area.
The only one i've found was this one:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/EVERSPRING-Z-W ... 2348309994

There is a test in German here: http://www.zwave-review.com/tests/Everspring_AN1527.php
It seems to be quite reliable, but there are not many shops selling it.


And this one from Aeon: https://en.robbshop.nl/aeon-labs-inline ... -switch-v3
Its sould out on the linked shop, but i think you could find it somewhere else (AEO_SES3_EU)
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Maybe a fibaro module? That is 3kw but should be build in.
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Buy a powerstrip/"short extension" with desired amp rating. These are everyday items.
Split the cable between the plug and the strip and fit a household electricity monitor clamp to the live wire.
Now you can monitor to your heart`s delight.

I use a OWL Micro+ CM 180 as the electricity monitor.
As an example, the CM 180 Specification indicate will measure up to 71A {+-16000 watt}.
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greenisnews wrote: Tuesday 07 November 2017 3:21 Buy a powerstrip/"short extension" with desired amp rating. These are everyday items.
Split the cable between the plug and the strip and fit a household electricity monitor clamp to the live wire.
Now you can monitor to your heart`s delight.

I use a OWL Micro+ CM 180 as the electricity monitor.
As an example, the CM 180 Specification indicate will measure up to 71A {+-16000 watt}.
I like your idea, but how is this communicating with domoticz?
For what I can read I need a RFXCom (which I don't have at the moment) which means additional costs.
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Buy any domestic "Electricity Monitor" compatible with whatever controller you already have. This free you from the hard task to find a single power plug that will read and record high loads +- 10A, > 2000 watts.
Say you want a z-wave speaking "Electricity Monitor" , perhaps this will work.

In my case I had two existing controllers.
ZStick-Gen5_ZW090-C and RFXtrx433E.
I bought the "Owl micro+ CM180" as it would work using LigtwaveRF on 433Mhz with my existing RFXtrx433E. {I had to check and ensure these are compatible beforehand}
The CM180 speaking LigtwaveRF would cost me +- £33 {you only need the sensor, this will cost even less, say +- £10} vs a a z-wave speaking Electricity sensor" for +- £70.

The pain, we need to ensure that any sensor we buy works with whatever controller we own, or, buy another controller. I see you have a "433MHz Superheterodyne 3310 RF Link". You need to check and see if it will speak to the "Owl micro+ CM180" or find an "Electricity Monitor" that does.

Perhaps this will help others.
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Draakje wrote: Monday 06 November 2017 19:51 Hi all,

I recently started collecting smart plug from neo Cool cam (AliExpress). These are really easy for use with a Aeotec Stick.
But these plugs have a max of 2600W.. As I want to monitor my microwave I need a different one.. Microwave = 3400W

Who can advise me in which z-wave plug to buy??.. (price does matter)

Kind regards
Forgive my question but why it's so important to monitor a microwave oven? It's something you use ocassionally not 0-24.
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LouiS22 wrote: Tuesday 07 November 2017 12:44
Draakje wrote: Monday 06 November 2017 19:51 Hi all,

I recently started collecting smart plug from neo Cool cam (AliExpress). These are really easy for use with a Aeotec Stick.
But these plugs have a max of 2600W.. As I want to monitor my microwave I need a different one.. Microwave = 3400W

Who can advise me in which z-wave plug to buy??.. (price does matter)

Kind regards
Forgive my question but why it's so important to monitor a microwave oven? It's something you use ocassionally not 0-24.
I am possessed to monitor everything.. But it is not that important :)
So if I can do it cheaply I will. If not.. well then no monitoring :)
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Draakje wrote: Tuesday 07 November 2017 12:57
LouiS22 wrote: Tuesday 07 November 2017 12:44
Draakje wrote: Monday 06 November 2017 19:51 Hi all,

I recently started collecting smart plug from neo Cool cam (AliExpress). These are really easy for use with a Aeotec Stick.
But these plugs have a max of 2600W.. As I want to monitor my microwave I need a different one.. Microwave = 3400W

Who can advise me in which z-wave plug to buy??.. (price does matter)

Kind regards
Forgive my question but why it's so important to monitor a microwave oven? It's something you use ocassionally not 0-24.
I am possessed to monitor everything.. But it is not that important :)
So if I can do it cheaply I will. If not.. well then no monitoring :)
Well, the cheapest one is not to monitor it, or you can monitor your household's total consuption. Then you'll see the spikes generated by microwave oven (for ex: you switch on your microwave oven at 7:00, then later check the spike generated by the owen - then you'll have an estimate of the consumption).
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