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What door sensor do you recommend? Zwave/ RFXtrx

Post by greenisnews »

Dear All,

Please could you make a recommendation, what door sensor with on / off sense do you recommend?

Spent many hours, still a nightmare.
Have z-wave and RFXtrxE 433 controllers.

Hope to find a good reliable product for <= £20 per sensor.

Options I have tried.
Bought a FOXX A75WA aka Aeotec DSB29 sensor.
Only the disturb/ security sensor work for me. The open close of magnet does nothing.
Waiting on delivery for Kerui D026 to test.

Your advice will be very much appreciated.
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Post by bbqkees »

I have a few Philio PST02-C and they work great.
Have them for about 2 years now and not even had to change the batteries yet.

They are a bit more expensive but decent official Z-Wave stuff is never <20 pounds.

If you want it cheap you could have a look at the Xiaomi gateway.
The sensors are <10 pounds, but you need to invest in the gateway too.
However, my personal experience with the Xiaomi gateway is that if it works, it works well but every week or so Domoticz loses the connection with the gateway.
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Post by CaesarPL »

I can say that Kerui D026 works fine. I use RFLink, separate signals for Open and Close, which is good.
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Post by blacksn0w »

I'm using several NEO Coolcam door/window sensors for 8 month now.
https://www.gearbest.com/doorbell/pp_621117.html

They are around 20 bucks each and using Z-Wave for communication, which is way more secure than 433 Mhz sensors.
Thinking of the worst possible scenario, someone else would monitor your sensor and would know when you are at home and when not...
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Post by JimmyH1969 »

I'm using this one:

https://aeotec.com/hidden-z-wave-door-sensor

Bit more expensive, but nearly invisible. They work great in Domoticz
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greenisnews wrote: Friday 03 November 2017 9:45 Dear All,

Please could you make a recommendation, what door sensor with on / off sense do you recommend?

Spent many hours, still a nightmare.
Have z-wave and RFXtrxE 433 controllers.

Hope to find a good reliable product for <= £20 per sensor.

Options I have tried.
Bought a FOXX A75WA aka Aeotec DSB29 sensor.
Only the disturb/ security sensor work for me. The open close of magnet does nothing.
Waiting on delivery for Kerui D026 to test.

Your advice will be very much appreciated.
The Kerui D026 works perfect with the RFXtrx433E.
The preferred firmware is Ext2 with Lighting4 and X10 enabled. the sensor will be detected as X10 security sensor.
RFX-433, RFX-433EMC, RFX-868
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Thank you for your recommendations this far.

Brief summary this far:
Kerui D026, 433 @ +- £8, ty “CaesarPL” and “b_weijenberg”. {Will test when arrive tomorrow}
GC00AM NAS - DS01Z, Z-wave @ +- £20 {delivery takes very long 2weeks}, Ty “blacksn0w”. {Will test when arrive +- 2 weeks}
PST02-C, z-wave @ +- £40, ty “Philio”
AEO_ZW089, z-wave @ +- £45, ty “JimmyH1969”.
ZStick-Gen5_ZW090-C, RFXtrx433E fw Ext2_1022
Boiler: HRT4 ASR-ZW, aka SSR303 with thermostat: HRT4-ZW, aka SRT321,
Plugs: GreenWave_z1, TKBHome-TZ69E, Temp: F007TH, Door/Window: DSB29
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Some feedback I hope will help others.

You can buy and use this door sensor with Z-wave:
FOXX A75WA, Aeotec DSB29 Door/window @ £15 in maplin
{Busy testing it on a fan so it moves back and forth so state change every ten seconds. +- 1000 changes and still working fine.}

You must do the following to get this to work.

In Domoticz v3.8153 after you paired the door sensor DSB29 do:
Go to Setup, Hardware, "Click setup on your Zwave controller", Click "node management", "Control panel"
Now select the sensor, for me it is listed as "Aeotec DSB29 Door/Window Sensor (2nd Edition)"

Ensure you do:
Under configuration set "Determines which report will be sent when magnet switch is opened/ closed." = "17".
Credit: "272" also worked as per this post

Now you can see under "Current Values",
When you remove the sensor from wall, "Alarm Level:" will change "0 / 255". This was working anyway, still works.
When the magnetic sensor is triggered (door open/close) "Sensor" will change "on/ off". You made this work, yay!

See image below:
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Plugs: GreenWave_z1, TKBHome-TZ69E, Temp: F007TH, Door/Window: DSB29
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Post by greenisnews »

This may help others.

How to get Kerui, D026, 433Mhz working.

3 states, Closed, Open, removed/ tamper.

Kerui, D026, 433Mhz {use 23A 12V battery}
Platform, Windows and Linux.
Sofware: Domoticz v3.8153 firmware, RFXtrx433_Ext2_1022.
Controller: I use RFXtrx433E~LightWaveRF.

In Domoticz v3.8153, go to Hardware, for "RFXtrx433E" click "set mode". {Ensure you have the correct firmware!}
Enable protocol "X10".{Correction, you also need "Lighting4"} {Only enable protocols you need, some break others. Thus any issues only enable X10 and "Lighting4"}
Now go find sensor in "setup", "devices", rename and add it.

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Plugs: GreenWave_z1, TKBHome-TZ69E, Temp: F007TH, Door/Window: DSB29
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Post by LouiS22 »

greenisnews wrote: Friday 03 November 2017 9:45 Dear All,

Please could you make a recommendation, what door sensor with on / off sense do you recommend?

Spent many hours, still a nightmare.
Have z-wave and RFXtrxE 433 controllers.

Hope to find a good reliable product for <= £20 per sensor.

Options I have tried.
Bought a FOXX A75WA aka Aeotec DSB29 sensor.
Only the disturb/ security sensor work for me. The open close of magnet does nothing.
Waiting on delivery for Kerui D026 to test.

Your advice will be very much appreciated.
If you still need door sensors, I also recommend Neo Coolcam's door sensor. FYI, 11/11 is in next week: this Chinese holiday means discounts in every online shop (like aliexpress, gearbest, etc) - so you grab them less then 20 EUR each. I also recommend Heiman's door sensor (also z-wave+). It a simple one, but it's working with 2 AAA batteries (so it's cheaper to replace them).
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Post by greenisnews »

Thank you.

List updated.

This stuff is time consuming and expensive to test.
Why such a list does not already exist beats me.

Brief summary this far:
Kerui D026, 433 @ +- £8, ty “CaesarPL” and “b_weijenberg”. {Will test when arrive tomorrow}
FOXX A75WA, Aeotec DSB29, z-wave Door/window @ £15 in maplin
NEO Coolcam NAS-DS01Z, z-wave @ £18.03, ty "LouiS22" {Can`t find in uk, order from nl.aliexpress.com}
Heiman HS1DS, z-wave @ £21.60, ty "LouiS22". Use AAA, {Can`t find in uk, order from nl.aliexpress.com}
GC00AM NAS - DS01Z, Z-wave @ +- £20 {delivery takes very long 2weeks}, Ty “blacksn0w”. {Will test when arrive +- 2 weeks}
PST02-C, z-wave @ +- £40, ty “Philio”
AEO_ZW089, z-wave @ +- £45, ty “JimmyH1969”.
ZStick-Gen5_ZW090-C, RFXtrx433E fw Ext2_1022
Boiler: HRT4 ASR-ZW, aka SSR303 with thermostat: HRT4-ZW, aka SRT321,
Plugs: GreenWave_z1, TKBHome-TZ69E, Temp: F007TH, Door/Window: DSB29
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Post by Westcott »

I've just got a Coolcam NAS-DS01Z from GearBest - worked straight-out-of-the-box.
Zwave - Sigma Z+ stick, Fibaro, Horstmann, Neo Coolcam, EUROtronic
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Post by mhfrey »

greenisnews thanks for the tips on getting the Aeotec DSB29 door/window sensors working.

I can see the on/off and 0/255 in the control panel and in the standalone open wave control panel. I added both the devices found in the Domoticz device list. The tamper works as expected, but the door open always shows off or if I change to a Door Contact closed.

What am I missing to get the on/off or open/closed states to work properly?

Thanks again for your help.
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Post by dannybloe »

I find that the magnetic switches are good for detecting burglary but not so good to know if a window is still open (for when you leave the house and you want to know which windows are open). Turns out you need a fair amount of space between the magnets before it triggers and if you leave a window open just a tiny bit it won't notice this.

I just noticed that the Foxx switches are on sale for just £7.99. I wonder if these are legit as zwave licenses are usually more expensive.
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