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Popp smoke detector and siren 004001 configuration

Posted: Sunday 08 November 2015 14:00
by cogliostrio
I bought one of these smoke detectors to test, but Im having trouble getting the configuration working (nothing shows up in Domoticz). I currently have the below code.

Any suggestions as to what might be wrong is welcome.

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<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8" ?>
<Product xmlns='http://code.google.com/p/open-zwave/'>

	<CommandClass id="112" name="COMMAND_CLASS_CONFIGURATION">	 

		<Value type="short" genre="config" index="1" label="Siren alarm sequence interval" units="" min="3" max="129" value="10">
			<Help>The additional siren is creating a different acoustic signal differentiate from the smoke alarm. This sound is partly on and partly off. This parameter defines the total length of the interval in seconds. Available settings: 3 - 129. Default setting: 10</Help>
		</Value>

		<Value type="short" genre="config" index="2" label="Siren alarm tone length" min="0" max="3" value="3" size="1">
			<Help>The additional siren is creating a different acoustic signal differentiate from the smoke alarm. This sound is partly on and partly off. This parameter defines the total length of the sound versus silence within this interval. Available settings: 3 - 129. Default setting: 10</Help>
		</Value>


		<Value type="short" genre="config" index="3" label="Value of On-Command" min="0" max="99" value="99" size="1">
			<Help>Value 0-99. Default 99</Help>
		</Value>

		<Value type="short" genre="config" index="4" label="Value of Off-Command" min="0" max="99" value="99" size="1">
			<Help>Value 0-99. Default 99</Help>
		</Value>

		<Value type="list" genre="config" index="5" label="Status of automated meshing of smoke alarms" min="0" max="3" value="3" size="1">
			<Help>This smoke detector can automatically inform other smoke detectors of same type about smoke alarms. They will then also turn on the siren. This function is a requirement of wireless networked smoke detectors</Help>
			<Item label="Value 0. Inactive" value="0" />
			<Item label="Value 1. Active (Default)" value="1" />
		</Value>

		<Value type="list" genre="config" index="6" label="Status of automated meshing of battery alarms" min="0" max="3" value="3" size="1">
			<Help>This smoke detector can automatically inform other smoke detectors of same type about battery alarms. They will then also turn on the siren. This function is a requirement of wireless networked smoke detectors.</Help>
			<Item label="Value 0. Inactive" value="0" />
			<Item label="Value 1. Active (Default)" value="1" />
		</Value>
		
	</CommandClass>

	<CommandClass id="133">
		<Associations num_groups="3">
			<Group index="1" max_associations="4" label="Lifeline" auto="true"/>
			<Group index="2" max_associations="4" label="Alarm reports" auto="true"/>
			<Group index="3" max_associations="4" label="Switching command when alarm" auto="true"/>
		</Associations>
	</CommandClass>

</Product>

Re: Popp smoke detector and siren 004001 configuration

Posted: Tuesday 10 November 2015 12:39
by wilcoyote
Hello,

the one below seems to work for me.
Anyway I've seen that the device reports 255 as default value for "on-command" instead of the expected "99". I don't know why. I adjusted the max to 255.
also I modified the manufacturer_specific.xml , adding the definition under Manufacturer id 0154.

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	<Manufacturer id="0154" name="Popp">
                <Product type="0100" id="0201" name="4001 Smoke Detector and Siren" config="popp/popp4001.xml" />
Maybe try to exclude/include again the device after modifying the config and manufacturer file, and/or manually cleanup your "zwcfg_xxxx" file to remove the popp 4001 device defintion.
Hope this will help.

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<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8" ?>
<Product xmlns='http://code.google.com/p/open-zwave/'>
   <!-- Configuration -->
   <CommandClass id="112" name="COMMAND_CLASS_CONFIGURATION">
      <Value type="byte" genre="config" index="1" label="Siren alarm sequence interval" min="3" max="129" value="10" size="1">
         <Help>The additional siren is creating a different acoustic signal differentiate from the smoke alarm. This sound is partly on and partly off. This parameter defines the total length of the interval in seconds. Available settings: 3 - 129. Default setting: 10</Help>
      </Value>
      <Value type="byte" genre="config" index="2" label="Siren alarm tone length" min="1" max="99" value="8" size="1">
         <Help>The additional siren is creating a different acoustic signal differentiate from the smoke alarm. This sound is partly on and partly off. This parameter defines the total length of the sound versus silence within this interval. Available settings: 1-99. Default setting: 8</Help>
      </Value>
      <Value type="byte" genre="config" index="3" label="Value of On-Command" min="0" max="255" value="255" size="1">
         <Help>Value 0-255. Default 255</Help>
      </Value>
      <Value type="byte" genre="config" index="4" label="Value of Off-Command" min="0" max="255" value="0" size="1">
         <Help>Value 0-255. Default 0</Help>
      </Value>
      <Value type="list" genre="config" instance="1" index="5" label="Status of automated meshing of smoke alarms" min="0" max="1" size="1">
         <Help>This smoke detector can automatically inform other smoke detectors of same type about smoke alarms. They will then also turn on the siren. This function is a requirement of wireless networked smoke detectors</Help>
         <Item label="Value 0. Inactive" value="0" />
         <Item label="Value 1. Active (Default)" value="1" />         
      </Value>
      <Value type="list" genre="config" instance="1" index="6" label="Status of automated meshing of battery alarms" min="0" max="1" size="1">
         <Help>This smoke detector can automatically inform other smoke detectors of same type about battery alarms. They will then also turn on the siren. This function is a requirement of wireless networked smoke detectors</Help>
         <Item label="Value 0. Inactive" value="0" />
         <Item label="Value 1. Active (Default)" value="1" />
      </Value>
   </CommandClass>
<!-- Association Groups -->
   <CommandClass id="133">
      <Associations num_groups="3">
         <Group index="1" max_associations="4" label="Lifeline" auto="true"/>
         <Group index="2" max_associations="4" label="Alarm reports" auto="true"/>
         <Group index="3" max_associations="4" label="Switching command when alarm" auto="true"/>
      </Associations>
   </CommandClass>
</Product>

Re: Popp smoke detector and siren 004001 configuration

Posted: Thursday 07 January 2016 16:02
by d94pam
Hi!

I also have the Popp smoke alarm/siren.
I have added the file you suggest and now I get proper devices. I can also see when a smoke alarm is going off.
However, I cannot trigger the siren and I cannot get temperature readings or battery level from the device. Any idea how I should solve this (siren being critical to my needs)?

Thanks!

Re: Popp smoke detector and siren 004001 configuration

Posted: Saturday 12 March 2016 21:10
by starfish001
did anyone manage to control the siren?

Re: Popp smoke detector and siren 004001 configuration

Posted: Tuesday 15 March 2016 17:13
by cogliostrio
In another thread regarding a fibaro smoke detector, I think it was. someone said it was not possible to control the siren seperatly.

Why would you want to do this?

Re: Popp smoke detector and siren 004001 configuration

Posted: Thursday 24 March 2016 22:47
by kmccor
I'm interested in these as according to the manufacturer you can use the siren independently, which I want to tie into a security system. No use unless I can get it working in Domoticz though so I'd like to know whether this is possible.

Re: Popp smoke detector and siren 004001 configuration

Posted: Sunday 18 September 2016 20:05
by vgr2
Any updates on this topic? I would like also control the siren seperatly.

Re: Popp smoke detector and siren 004001 configuration

Posted: Monday 09 January 2017 17:29
by antares
As said above by @wilcoyote: change "on" value from 99 to 255 and "off" value from 99 to 0. I can now turn on the siren and it starts howling.

Re: Popp smoke detector and siren 004001 configuration

Posted: Wednesday 18 January 2017 9:47
by Cloud
Got a new popp smoke detector, with the latest stable update the siren was included without problems and with no extra config. So perhaps just try to reinclude.

Re: Popp smoke detector and siren 004001 configuration

Posted: Friday 03 March 2017 10:01
by gl4di4tor81
Hey guys,

got a popp smoke detector 004001 and inlcuded into domoticz. Siren is identified and can be switched on manually - use it for my alarming-system.

BUT: I don`t know why, this thing gives a beep in an unspecific time-period. the peep is just half a second or so, but drives me crazy.
Battery level is 100%, i also set

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5. Status of automated meshing of smoke alarms: inactive

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6. Status of automated meshing of battery alarms: inactive
anyone an idea?

PS: Rasp PI, Domoticz V 3.5877, OpenZWave USB Version: 1.4-2228-gbce4a88-dirty

Re: Popp smoke detector and siren 004001 configuration

Posted: Thursday 30 March 2017 18:21
by gielie
Its probably the battery, try to change it, I had the same problem. Battery level was at 100% for almost a year, impossible I thought so I changed the battery and the beep was gone.

I have a different issue, I connected them to the popp power adapter because I wanted them to function as a repeater but this doesn't work. I checked if the power adapter works properly by removing the battery and it does.
Did someone get the detector working as a repeater node?