Will domoticz run well on a Intel NUC DN2820FYK 2.16Ghz 4GB 128GB SSD

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Will domoticz run well on a Intel NUC DN2820FYK 2.16Ghz 4GB 128GB SSD

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Hi,

Currently I'm running domoticz on a Pi2B and it's fine.
Though I just got started and not using any USB sticks or rflink.

I want to start using them so I wonder if it would be better to setup with something that can handle all of this with worries for power and speed.

I just found this Intel NUC DN2820FYK 2.16Ghz 4GB 128GB SSD and can't find any details about what I would need to run domoticz on a NUC, there are so many NUC's it's not clear to me.

So, what should I look for?
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Re: Will domoticz run well on a Intel NUC DN2820FYK 2.16Ghz 4GB 128GB SSD

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Jasper79 wrote: Monday 27 July 2020 16:00 I just found this Intel NUC DN2820FYK 2.16Ghz 4GB 128GB SSD and can't find any details about what I would need to run domoticz on a NUC, there are so many NUC's it's not clear to me.
So, what should I look for?
domoticz will work on any NUC capable of executing Debian buster or Windows 10 and also on some other recent Linux variants
Debian buster, bullseye on RPI-4, Intel NUC.
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Re: Will domoticz run well on a Intel NUC DN2820FYK 2.16Ghz 4GB 128GB SSD

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Thanks,

So if I can get the one above for 95€ or this one for 115€ Intel NUC Kit D34010WYK
Intel Core i3 4010U 1.7GHz, 4GB Ram, 120GB M.2 SSD

Which would be the best option? Old processors made some sense to me, now days it doesn't.
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Post by jake »

Why not stay with the pi? I used to run domoticz on a pi 1b. Nowadays on a pi 3b.

I use it with: usb zwave, zigbee and opentherm gateway. The pi also works as vpn controller (openvpn, pivpn), adblocker for the whole network (pihole) and unify wifi network controller. It also is the gateway for my enecsys solar inverters. the P1 energy meter is directly connected to the gpio of the pi as well.

In short, a rpi has plenty power and still very energy efficient!
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I need a new pi anyway because this is a 2B I use for playing with so I can get a 4 with 2gb ram, a good quality SD card and a good power supply for almost the same price as the cheaper nuc so therfore I consider a more powerful option as well.
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Jasper79 wrote:I need a new pi anyway because this is a 2B I use for playing with so I can get a 4 with 2gb ram, a good quality SD card and a good power supply for almost the same price as the cheaper nuc so therfore I consider a more powerful option as well.
Well, forget the good quality sd card and buy an external usb ssd drive instead, much more reliable than a sd card which is not happy with the massive amount of little write actions from an os and software like domoticz.
The smallest ssd is good enough. I came from a 8gb sd card, went to a 32gb usb stick and now with a 240gb ssd. However, still only partitioned with the same 8gb, since I don't need more, but hate the useless empty space while making a backup. I couldn't find an external ssd with less capacity for less money, that's why I have the 240gb ;-)
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It is better to actually partition/format and use the whole SSD, because now you are continuously using the 8 Gb for all writes, while it would be better to spread this over the whole disks. This would decrease the amount of writes per surface 30 times!
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Re: Will domoticz run well on a Intel NUC DN2820FYK 2.16Ghz 4GB 128GB SSD

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Jasper79 wrote: Monday 27 July 2020 17:21 Thanks,

So if I can get the one above for 95€ or this one for 115€ Intel NUC Kit D34010WYK
Intel Core i3 4010U 1.7GHz, 4GB Ram, 120GB M.2 SSD

Which would be the best option? Old processors made some sense to me, now days it doesn't.
As said, both will have plenty CPU-power for Domoticz only. Both are quite old models, but the advantage of the i3 that it is more powerful then the Celeron and also that you can add up to 16Gb Ram instead of 8Gb. For only Domoticz that is overkill, but perhaps you may want to do more with it. Like I did, with virtualisation:

I just moved over from using RPI's to a NUC because I was tired of using external SSD's and tedious restoring and setting up stuff again on the SD-card when for no reason it did not want to boot again. Also the ARM32 processor was sometimes limiting on what kind of App's I could use.

I now have a NUC on which I directly installed ProxMox, which is bare metal virtualisation software.

Now I can spin up a virtual machine with an OS of choice and in a minute I can install stuff and have it backed-up to my NAS without having to create manual rsync-scripts etc. Had no experience with it, but got it up and running quite fast (mainly the mapping the external ports is a bit complicated.)

To make installation of everything even more simple and modular, I'm actually running Docker in a Linux Container, so most applications run as a Docker container that can be easily started/stopped and upgraded without any installation.

Only if I have applications that do not run in Docker or need another OS or backup-stragegy, or I don't want to disturb my "production" machine, I use another separate virtual machine.

And yes: running Docker containers in a Linux Container has some overhead, but that is may by 5% (?) which is completely unnoticiable if you have this much CPU/RAM to spare and is fully outweighed by the ease of managing your "machine" backups.

So much easier to handle then fiddling around with RPI's, although I still use one because of the GPIO's to have a lot of digital interfaces.
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Re: Will domoticz run well on a Intel NUC DN2820FYK 2.16Ghz 4GB 128GB SSD

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Thanks, I'll get the i3 then.
I'm already quite done with the Pi, After a reboot through the Domoticz menu I lost all hardware and devices.
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