Philips Hue "Home and Away" geofence sensor in Domoticz?

[Domoberry]

Hi Forum,
The Hue platform supports geofencing: "Home and Away". You can use it to trigger scenes. In the Hue app, you can see the events created by the virtual geofencing 'sensors'; one sensor per mobile device participating in the Home and Away routine. See in the Hue App: Explore / Hue Labs / Settings / information on your bridge / Manage resources / Geofence users.
Is it possible to use these sensor events in Domoticz?
I dare to ask since the Hue Motion sensor, when activated in Domoticz, shows up as Switch, so you can use it in scripting. So why not the (software) geofence sensor?
I tried the "allow new devices for 5 mins /disable Hue hardware / wait few mins / reenable Hue hardware" sequence to see if a new sensor would show up, but did not see a new one. Nevertheless, it could be I took a wrong turn somewhere.
Any experience?
The obvious alternative is to use one of the other geofencing mechanisms working with Domoticz.
Using Domiticz beta releases and iPhone mobile devices.

[joostnl]

+1 wanna use this idea

[Domoberry]

Technically this seems possible. Following some hints in https://community.openhab.org/t/use-iph ... cing/43724 and taking my first few and careful steps using the Hue CLIP API debugger (see https://developers.meethue.com/develop/get-started-2/), I noted that indeed a GET on

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https://<bridge_IP>/api/<username>/sensors

gives a long list of all sensors in your Hue system. You will come across any motion sensor (type: 'ZLLPresence') you might have and... you will also see sensors of type 'Geofence'. A dedicated GET on such a sensor tells you if the related phone is present on not.
Next is obviously the real stuff: get this into Domoticz such that you can read the status and have a change in status trigger a script. It does look similar to the already supported motion sensors. but, probably, the devil is in the details, and this is where the experts come in

[limar]

Guess Domoberry is on the right track. Just do GET requests to the respective geofence sensors as stated by Domoberry. One before and one after the geofence was triggered using hue itself. After that I would create a dummy switch and update that one in the same manner as done in the below url for lights and groups, but then specifically for that one sensor:
viewtopic.php?f=56&p=205493

Details can all be found here on the hue bridge api:
https://developers.meethue.com/

[JesseKlaasse]

Just wanted to let you know that, based on this idea, I have added some code to enable detection of the Geofence Hue 'sensors' in Domoticz. They will be detected as motion sensors. The good news is that gizmocuz has approved by pull request, and the code will appear starting with beta version 11074.

[Domoberry]

Well done!
I’m of the beta track at the moment until I pick up somewhere that ZWave is ‘Beta+’ but tempted to go beta sooner
Eager to give this new ‘sensor’ a go!

[Domoberry]

Just to confirm and a 'thank you!'
If you upgrade to stable Domoticz 2020 and check for Hue, you will notice a new Motion sensor of type Light/Switch subtype Switch called "Geofence <phone name>". You can have multiple Hue geofence users.
I had to fiddle a bit in the Hue app to activate the Home and Away routine, without actually doing anything (I want Domoticz to handle), but with that done, the 'sensor' works fine.
Just for the record, in the Hue app, go to Explore -> Hue Labs -> Settings -> [tab the (i) after the bridge concerned] -> Manage resources -> Geofence users to see the actual geofence users on this bridge.

[Domoberry]

Hi All,
It seems this Hue Home and Away GeoFencing option, using a specific interface found on the Hue API, does not work anymore. I noted my 'GeoFence' Domoticz device originating from Hue had not been updated since August '21.
Not sure what has changed, but my guess is that something changed on Hue side causing this to fail.
Clearly, someone more familiar with the Hue API could dive in a level deeper on this.
In the meantime, using the following work-around:
- use Hue Home and Away in the Hue app as per normal
- assign a light in a room to be controlled by Home and Away
- use the status of this light in Domoticz, where it appears as a device like any other Hue device obviously
- and ... it seems you can also disconnect the device (e.g. unplug it such that it becomes 'unreachable') while it maintains the same functionality in Domoticz. You 'sort of' created a 'virtual' Hue device. I'm checking to see if this holds for a longer period.