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RFlink upgrade

Posted: Thursday 11 January 2018 13:15
by poudenes
Hi All,

I have a RFlink with only support for 433mhz devices. I want upgrade my RFlink so i can use all mhz possible frequencies.
So i can control my MiLIght lamps as well

Can someone help me how to do this?

Re: RFlink upgrade

Posted: Thursday 11 January 2018 13:23
by Jochem
Hi poudenes,

If you have a 433 Mhz module this one will only support equipment which is designed for 433Mhz

there are 2 frequencies which are used on the 433Mhz channel
-433.20 Mhz. mostly used for controlling somfy stuff.
-433.92 Mhz. for the most common equipment like KAKU and TFA

and then you have the 868.3 Mhz channel for most of the equipment which operates om the 868Mhz channel.

so if you want to control everything you need 3 separate RF link kits.

If you do not control somfy products you will be fine with the 433.92 kit (you already have) and the 868.3 kit

I hope this will help you a bit..

Re: RFlink upgrade

Posted: Thursday 11 January 2018 13:44
by poudenes
thanks for the feedback. Sounds logic. :)

Re: RFlink upgrade

Posted: Thursday 11 January 2018 13:52
by poudenes
Jochem wrote: Thursday 11 January 2018 13:23 Hi poudenes,

If you have a 433 Mhz module this one will only support equipment which is designed for 433Mhz

there are 2 frequencies which are used on the 433Mhz channel
-433.20 Mhz. mostly used for controlling somfy stuff.
-433.92 Mhz. for the most common equipment like KAKU and TFA

and then you have the 868.3 Mhz channel for most of the equipment which operates om the 868Mhz channel.

so if you want to control everything you need 3 separate RF link kits.

If you do not control somfy products you will be fine with the 433.92 kit (you already have) and the 868.3 kit

I hope this will help you a bit..
I read that MiLIght work on 2.4Ghz. WIll search for a RFlink that have 2.4Ghz support

Re: RFlink upgrade

Posted: Thursday 11 January 2018 13:58
by Jochem
2,4 Ghz is the WIFI channel so that has nothing to do with the external antenna's.

In your case I see you have an RPi3 just configure WIFI (in case you did not have set it up yet)

after that domoticz can control your milight by wifi

there's no RF link with 2,4Ghz support, you don't need an rf link to control the milight.

Re: RFlink upgrade

Posted: Thursday 11 January 2018 14:07
by Jochem
He hallo ik zie staan Amsterdam...

even simpel in Nederlands uitgelegd:

de 433 en de 868Mhz frequenties gaan via de externe antennes van de RF link

de 2,4 en 5.0 Ghz. zijn wifi frequenties die gaan via de WIFI antenne al dan niet ingebouwd in de RPi in de RPi3 zit hij ingebouwd, om het met een RPi2 te kunnen doen moet je er een WIFI dongen aan hangen en configureren.

Ik neem aan dat je WIFI hebt geconfigureerd op je RPi3

mocht je mee problemen tegen komen dan hoor ik je wel..

Re: RFlink upgrade

Posted: Thursday 11 January 2018 14:24
by Milifax
poudenes wrote: Thursday 11 January 2018 13:15 Hi All,

I have a RFlink with only support for 433mhz devices. I want upgrade my RFlink so i can use all mhz possible frequencies.
So i can control my MiLIght lamps as well

Can someone help me how to do this?
I'm afraid the above advices are sending you in the wrong way.
If you want to control your MiLight you can add an NRF24L01+ to your RFLink. Costst only a couple of euro/dollar.
2.4Ghz is the frequency, however it is not the same as your standard WiFi signal.

Check your RFLink version if you can add an NRF24L01+. There should be a header on top of you board.
The NRF24L01+ is sold in the Nodoshop for intance:
https://www.nodo-shop.nl/en/zend-ontvan ... odule.html

Edit: You have to activate your NRF in the RFLink FW when added to your board.

Re: RFlink upgrade

Posted: Thursday 11 January 2018 14:29
by poudenes
Milifax wrote: Thursday 11 January 2018 14:24
poudenes wrote: Thursday 11 January 2018 13:15 Hi All,

I have a RFlink with only support for 433mhz devices. I want upgrade my RFlink so i can use all mhz possible frequencies.
So i can control my MiLIght lamps as well

Can someone help me how to do this?
I'm afraid the above advices are sending you in the wrong way.
If you want to control your MiLight you can add an NRF24L01+ to your RFLink. Costst only a couple of euro/dollar.
2.4Ghz is the frequency, however it is not the same as your standard WiFi signal.

Check your RFLink version if you can add an NRF24L01+. There should be a header on top of you board.
The NRF24L01+ is sold in the Nodoshop for intance:
https://www.nodo-shop.nl/en/zend-ontvan ... odule.html

Edit: You have to activate your NRF in the RFLink FW when added to your board.
And i can add this module beside the 433mhz module?

Re: RFlink upgrade

Posted: Thursday 11 January 2018 14:30
by Milifax
poudenes wrote: Thursday 11 January 2018 14:29
Yes, it is an add-on.
Read the RFLink forum for more info or google.

Re: RFlink upgrade

Posted: Thursday 11 January 2018 14:32
by Milifax
I have it working on 433mhz with my KaKu devices and 2.4Ghz for MiLight Bulbs.
Also I have some wifi-modules on 2.4Ghz with ESPEasy FW. Those use the standard WiFi-signal which connect with my standard router.
All work together ofcourse.

All are seperate frequencies and thus can work next to eachother.
The RFLink board can handle both 433Mhz and 2.4Ghz Milight stuff. And I think, but not sure, you can even expand it for the 8xxMhz band.

Re: RFlink upgrade

Posted: Thursday 11 January 2018 15:14
by poudenes
Milifax wrote: Thursday 11 January 2018 14:30
poudenes wrote: Thursday 11 January 2018 14:29
Yes, it is an add-on.
Read the RFLink forum for more info or google.
Thanks... Price is less then a MC Donalds Burger so lets try it..... I can try it and maybe disconnect my MiLight controllers :D

Re: RFlink upgrade

Posted: Thursday 11 January 2018 16:09
by leonmoonen
Milifax wrote:
poudenes wrote: Thursday 11 January 2018 13:15 Hi All,

I have a RFlink with only support for 433mhz devices. I want upgrade my RFlink so i can use all mhz possible frequencies.
So i can control my MiLIght lamps as well

Can someone help me how to do this?
I'm afraid the above advices are sending you in the wrong way.
If you want to control your MiLight you can add an NRF24L01+ to your RFLink.
That really depends on the fact if the OP has a milight controller in his network (i.e. if he currently can turn on/off lights from his mobile). If that is the case, the RFLink extension is not needed and things work directly from Domoticz. If there is no controller in the network, the module is of course a very cost effective way of adding one....

Re: RFlink upgrade

Posted: Thursday 11 January 2018 16:13
by Milifax
leonmoonen wrote: Thursday 11 January 2018 16:09 That really depends on the fact if the OP has a milight controller in his network (i.e. if he currently can turn on/off lights from his mobile). If that is the case, the RFLink extension is not needed and things work directly from Domoticz. If there is no controller in the network, the module is of course a very cost effective way of adding one....
Well the OP states:
I want upgrade my RFlink so i can use all mhz possible frequencies.
So i can control my MiLIght lamps as well
To me the question here is, if it is possible to control his MiLights through RFLink.
The advice given before is surely incorrect and the correctness doesn't change if OP has a controller or not.
Hence the answer of the add-on.

Re: RFlink upgrade

Posted: Thursday 11 January 2018 16:37
by poudenes
I read on RFlink when you upgrade the firmware ro R48 i can control MiLight using the NRF24L01 add-on module.

Re: RFlink upgrade

Posted: Thursday 11 January 2018 18:23
by leonmoonen
poudenes wrote:I read on RFlink when you upgrade the firmware ro R48 i can control MiLight using the NRF24L01 add-on module.
yep, it’ll need that module to control your MiLights w/o having a ‘native’ MiLight controller in your network.

I went the alternative route, adding a box milight controller which I use as a messaging light and as a controller that is directly addressed from Domoticz. Overall that is a more expensive solution (from the top of my head 12/13euro more) but I like having an alternative way to control my lights when (not if) my RPi crashes... I find having such a backup also greatly improves the acceptance by others in the household, but YMMV :-)

Re: RFlink upgrade

Posted: Thursday 11 January 2018 18:29
by poudenes
leonmoonen wrote: Thursday 11 January 2018 18:23
poudenes wrote:I read on RFlink when you upgrade the firmware ro R48 i can control MiLight using the NRF24L01 add-on module.
yep, it’ll need that module to control your MiLights w/o having a ‘native’ MiLight controller in your network.

I went the alternative route, adding a box milight controller which I use as a messaging light and as a controller that is directly addressed from Domoticz. Overall that is a more expensive solution (from the top of my head 12/13euro more) but I like having an alternative way to control my lights when (not if) my RPi crashes... I find having such a backup also greatly improves the acceptance by others in the household, but YMMV :-)
I have already 2 MiLight controllers as well. Connected to Domoticz. But when i can control them using RFlink i dont have the problem when my WiFi is bad or whatever... Domoticz can send the command to RFlink (USB) and then directly to lamp. Instead Domoticz via WiFi to Milight Controller etc.