Cheap chinese z-wave products

[Derik]

But the most interesting thing i found on one of your links is this for DIY projects:
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product ... 42104.html

Does anyone know about the programing on these modules?

Promising
Perhaps find a Pinout.....

[bizziebis]

Sounds nice! More information here:

http://www.chinaseniorsupplier.com/Elec ... Valve.html

[ThinkPad]

Big fat warning!
Doublecheck the frequency they use before buying anything that might end up useless.

Z-Wave uses different frequencies across the globe.

[LouiS22]

Big fat warning!
Doublecheck the frequency they use before buying anything that might end up useless.

Z-Wave uses different frequencies across the globe.

Indeed! I've placed my order with a remark (EU frequency). The good thing is that china is on the same frequency with EU.

[trixwood]

I read https://github.com/OpenZWave/open-zwave ... ng-Devices

So I ordered an eu powersocket.

Hope it works...

Ow: I had more luck with NAS-AC01DT as search term with aliexpress

http://nl.aliexpress.com/wholesale?catI ... NAS-AC01DT

and I could not find any other chin-cheap z-wave either :-/

[Derik]

I ordered the Pir and the DIY module

[martk]

I just ordered a door sensor for 24 euro including shipping to the Netherlands...

[remb0]

Maybe the startpost can be edited with al the info in this topic. show it will grow like a faq.

frequency's, reliable shops, compatibility information etc..

[Domosapiens]

But the most interesting thing i found on one of your links is this for DIY projects:
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product ... 42104.html

Does anyone know about the programming on these modules?

Interesting find!
I received the following info from the seller (file size too big for this bord):

Jul_list_price_Smart_home_accessories_English.pdf
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-NJRO ... sp=sharing

and from the Z-wave board Xenon-M1(1).pdf
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-NJRO ... sp=sharing

I have not enough knowledge to judge if this is a working module with the Z-wave SoC (System on Chip) capabilities already on-board.
Derik, please share your experience.

Hope this helps
Domosapiens

[Domosapiens]

The same board at Amazon:
https://www.amazon.com/Intelligent-Z-wa ... B016D4Z37Q

SM-M1 Smart Home Module
Xenon SM-M1 smart modules selected from the most advanced smart home Z-Wave protocol, ZM5202 hardware module within the existing node control functions previously written software, Z-Wave node function, access to Z-Wave Intelligent Systems. Xenon SM-M1 for small and medium size manufacturers to solve the difficulties of the early technology development, saving a lot of development time and costs, especially in the early manufacturer of electrical test intelligent system access and a small amount of trial production, there is great value.
Single product customization:Xenon SM-M1 on ZM5202 hardware node function control module programming software directly, save hardware costs, guarantee convenience and yield production line of hardware products for intelligent single product lot of customization.
Master Gateway: Xenon systems provide Z-Wave master gateway and technical support, we can build up a test platform and the node with the production of forming system sold together.
loud services:Xenon systems provide access to the cloud, eliminating the difficulties of equipment installation and maintenance, but also can build more value-added services. Feel free to contact the project manager to discuss business cooperation. Select the following desired function model, add a module to the product circuit board can be used. Z2-P1: intelligent socket, power switch Z2-P2: intelligent socket, power switch, power meter Z2-D1: Dimmer Z2-S1: Door/windows Sensor Z2-S2: temperature, humidity, luminance meter Z2-S3: remote control to select the scene Z2-C1: electric curtain motor control Z2-R1: IR control repeater
Features *Pad and pin compatible with the ZM3102 and ZM4102*ITU G.9959 compliantModule*Optimized 8051 CPU Core*128kb flash *16KB SRAM*UART with speed up to 230.4kbps*2 interrupt inputs *4-channel 12/8-bit rail-to-rail ADC with VDD/internal/external voltage reference*PWM Output

The comparable Sigma board ZM5202

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-NJR ... TNEUHZDdUE

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[LouiS22]

But the most interesting thing i found on one of your links is this for DIY projects:
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product ... 42104.html

Does anyone know about the programming on these modules?

Interesting find!
I received the following info from the seller (file size too big for this bord):

Jul_list_price_Smart_home_accessories_English.pdf
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-NJRO ... sp=sharing

and from the Z-wave board Xenon-M1(1).pdf
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-NJRO ... sp=sharing

I have not enough knowledge to judge if this is a working module with the Z-wave SoC (System on Chip) capabilities already on-board.
Derik, please share your experience.

Hope this helps
Domosapiens

Haha I had a quick email with them as well, and they sent me the price list as well. I've ordered one of those door sensors, fingers crossed. It's already en route from China. The sales rep told me they're OEM partners, but obviously no further details. I suspect they could be the manufacturer of Benext's door sensor: http://products.z-wavealliance.org/products/75

[cattoo]

This sounds interesting, let us all know if the work as they should

[trixwood]

Same chip...

https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/3685/z-wave-sensor/2

They ask some nice questions though...
How about the cost of the sdk?

[LouiS22]

Same chip...

https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/3685/z-wave-sensor/2

They ask some nice questions though...
How about the cost of the sdk?

AFAIK you have to pay 3000 USD/year and that's just the membership fee. I've checked their website a long time ago, the SDK also cost a lot as well as the approval. So in general, that's what we pay at the retail store

[trixwood]

Ok, I am getting out of my depth here... I just stick to prefab z-wave

[LouiS22]

Ok, I am getting out of my depth here... I just stick to prefab z-wave

The downside of a closed something (at least from our perpective): sigma designs can have shitloads of money because of that. The good thing: you can control everything, you can approve everything, and all the devices will be compatible with each other. IMHO it's a brilliant business model.

[trixwood]

Soon to be replaced with the bigger players getting into the game There is a big rise in home automation, check google trends. The amount of lo energy bluetooth and wifi devices is on a very high rise. The problems I have with them is that the whole man in the middle/you can't say stalker e.t. phone home & cloud thing... luckily most people do not care And hopefully those nice zwave devices will get cheaper (or not)

[Domosapiens]

On my follow-on question to the supplier of A-low-cost-fully-integrated-Z-wave-module
( http://nl.aliexpress.com/store/product/ ... 42104.html ):

Is Z-wave already loaded in the chip?

I received the answer:

Yes,z-wave has been loaded chip inside.

That sounds promising.
No SIGMA SDK needed?

The proof of the pudding is the eating!

Regards
Domosapiens

[ronh123]

Hi, I bought the Neo-cam ( EU type / Netherlands ) and it's working fine. It's a unknown device in my Domoticz, but I could select the device to power my light and see the usage. Hope It can be added in Domoticz. I already added it to my livingroom group and stil working.

[deennoo]

Juste buy a wallplug switch thx for sharing