Action Promax / Kaku Alternative

[axelbaas]

Hi All,

There are several topics about Kaku Alternatives bought by Action, but i didn't find the switches from the brand 'Promax'. So i created a new one.
I bought these switches today for €10 to try, but unfortunately they wont work (yet) with Domoticz. If i accept new hardware, and push the buttons on the remote, there are new devices added. But i can't switch them.

By pressing 1 button on the remote it show 2 devices.;
RFLink 0028A002 1 test8 Light/Switch AC
RFLink 79B6B4D3 7 test7 Light/Switch HomeEasy EU

On the back of the switch there is logo of the brand "Intertek" the same like "Home-Easy" products. So i opent the Promax switch to take a look inside, it is looking nearly the same as an HomeEasy HE874 ( see attachment).

Did anyone tried these switches before? An had more success? Or someone who have some tips and tricks?

[dijkdj]

These are learning switches. Put them in learning mode and send an AC signal from domoticz with a manual created switch.

[Stuntteam]

Indeed the ProMax switch set is replacing the Eurodomest set at Action.
Some stores still have a few Eurodomest sets.

Support for these new ProMax sets has been added to RFlink!

[Treve]

These are learning switches. Put them in learning mode and send an AC signal from domoticz with a manual created switch.

I have the same problem and results as Axelbaas with my RFXCOM433E. (with the latest firmware)
I made a manual switch and send an AC signal to the Action switch, but the switch does not respond.

The remote control from Action works flawlessly with my original KaKu switches.

[DaaNMaGeDDoN]

I thought i'd give them a try too but i have not found a way to get them to work.
I have monitored the signal from the remote through Rfxmngr, this is a typical signal that follows when you press a "on" button:

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19-1-2016 15:34:56
Packettype    = Lighting2
subtype       = AC
Sequence nbr  = 30
ID            = 029D002 decimal:2740226
Unit          = 1
Command       = On
Signal level  = 7  -64dBi
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19-1-2016 15:34:57
Packettype    = Lighting1
subtype       = ARC
Sequence nbr  = 31
housecode     = K
unitcode      = 9
Command       = On
Signal level  = 8  -56dBi

This confirmed my suspicion the remote was sending something more than just 1 on command (led on the remote flashes quite long): it sends one for both AC and ARC.
This explains why the remote is seen, but if you check the unused devices you'll find there are also some new ARC switches detected which correspond with the above log output from rfxmgr.
I tried to mimic this by creating 2 switches in domoticz that are turned on in close succession after each other: I created one dummy switch "TEST" and the following script would have to take care of the rest:

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...
if devicechanged['TEST'] then
commandArray[#commandArray+1]={['test3']='On'}
commandArray[#commandArray+1]={['test4']='On'}
end
...

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This in could work because it comes very close to the signal the remote sends out, but it doesn't. Also when i put the switches in learning mode and try either the new created mimmicing signal, a seperate ARC or AC signal, none of them work.
Guess i'll return them soon, unless somebody here has a clue.
Also, we could consider this promax stuff might pollute our "free air time"
I am running fw version 250 on the rfxtrx443.

[Stuntteam]

Note that you are posting in the RFLink section.
RFLink receives the signals from the Promax remotes and can also control the switches/sockets with the signals that it picked up from the remote.
All is auto detect. There is absolutely no need to enable/disable any protocols and also no issues with one protocol not working in combination with some other protocol!

[DaaNMaGeDDoN]

Note that you are posting in the RFLink section.
...

Sorry, i didn't notice that. I came here after googling on "domoticz pro max" and it seemed the only place here on the forum where these "promax"-es are mentioned. I failed to notice the RFLink part and was confused i couldnt get them to work (with my rfxtrx443e).
However, in parallel i am in contact with rfxcomm support, they noticed my post here, so maybe all will be fine. Thanks anyway

[Willem81]

I have the same Action Switches.

Same issue: does not work trough "learning" the remote. Also the suggestion to make a manual AC switch and let the switch learn this signal did not work for me. Although I am not sure how to set the numbers of the manual switch.

Anyone succeeded in pairing these using the RFLink and domoticz?

[wssmith]

The Eurodomest use ARC protocol and do work... usually. I have found them to be quite unreliable.

[Stuntteam]

We are talking about the successor of the Eurodomest sets, called Promax.
RFLink fully supports the protocol used with these Promax sets.

Also, eventhough Eurodomest switches respond to ARC, they respond not as well as when they are controlled by their own protocol, which is what RFLink is using for the Eurodomest sets.

[Pjotrij]

I have bought the new Promax set today, when in auto learning mode the remote is recognised. However, when trying to send an on or off signal from domoticz the switch don't respond. I upgraded the firmware of RFlink from 1.35 to 1.36. Before that the remote was not recognised as a known system, now it's recognised as HE eu. However, the switched still don't respond to my commands send from Domoticz.

Any clue as what might cause this issue (or how I can invertigate futher)?

The remote has 75.006.14 RC50075 written on the back, the switches 55010x10
It would be nice to get them working since I already demolished one to build the print switch into my espresoomachine . Yes, yes, I know. I should have tested this before....

My other set (Eurodomest) is working fine with Domotics/rflink, this morning they still had one set at the shp but i chose the newer once because of the smaller formfactor and the nicer remote.

Pieter

[Stuntteam]

solved via pm.

[D3LTA]

can u please share how u solved it?

i have same set and can't get them to work with rfxcom433 and domoticz

[Stuntteam]

You are in the RFLink forum...

The solution is: Get the RFLink Gateway...
All you need is:
- Arduino Mega (~10 euros from Asia)
- Cheap 433mhz receiver set (like SYN480R/RXB6 etc. ~2 to 10 euros)
- the FREE RFLink Gateway firmware
and you have all you need..

Need more info? Start here: https://sourceforge.net/projects/rflink/

[Frankm]

Same problem here with the rfxcom433 and the action intertek switch. Would be great if this could be solved

[marcojpolet]

You may want to check which device. I have the same Action set and it seems the remote sends like 3 different model / makes commands. Only one of them is actually controlling the device.

Regards,
Marco

Verstuurd vanaf mijn LG-D802 met Tapatalk

[Frankm]

Hi,

I tried the home eu signal and the ac signal but can't find a third option.

Regards Frank

[Stuntteam]

Ok, one more time.
This forum section is about the "RFLink Gateway".
More information here: http://www.nemcon.nl/blog2/
We believe that it is the best solution for these kinds of tasks!
The RFLink firmware is free. You just need some hardware, available all over the net.

The RFLink Gateway is capable of receiving the ProMax signals and capable of controlling the ProMax switches that are currently sold at the Action stores.

Since you have a different device than the RFLink Gateway, you should seek help at the place you bought your device from.
Or just swap it for RFLink....

[NietGiftig]

Or just swap it for RFLink....

Ah, nice option

[tonadam]

Hi,

I also have 3 Pro Max from Action: ProMax 75.006.14 RC 50075

reported as follows by Domoticz:

[Turn On] 45 RFLINK 002A3C02 4 Unknown Light/Switch AC Off - - [Add Light/Switch Device] [Rename Device] [Log] 2016-02-24 11:37:41
[Turn On] 46 RFLINK 7B5B334E 14 Unknown Light/Switch HomeEasy EU Off - - [Add Light/Switch Device] [Rename Device] [Log] 2016-02-24 11:37:41

Both as NewKaku as HomeEasy, from the direct serial output:

20;01;NewKaku;ID=002a3c02;SWITCH=1;CMD=ON;
20;02;HomeEasy;ID=7b5b334e;SWITCH=07;CMD=ON;
20;03;NewKaku;ID=002a3c02;SWITCH=1;CMD=ON;
20;04;HomeEasy;ID=7b5b334e;SWITCH=07;CMD=ON;

Running RFLINK v1.1_r37

Sending commands does not work. Also not when I replicate the commands of NewKaku/HomeEasy by hand.

Let me know if providing any additional info would be helpful.

Thanks