Fresh install Domoticz

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Fresh install Domoticz

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Hello again, it has been some time since i posted on the forum. Domoticz has been running smootly and not much changed in my home automation system so not much need for me to change/update Domoticz. As a result my Domoticz knowledge has become a bit “rusty”

Time to brush up my knowledge again as i plan to upgrade my Raspberry pi 3 to a 4Mb pi 4.
Now i am looking for advise for the type of install that would best fit my needs (and others?) primarily as the Wiki page seems somewhat outdated.

I am using Domoticz with RFC, Zwave and Zigbee (Zigbee for Domoticz). I am upgrading many RFX devices to Zigbee but i will probably still keep using some RFX devices on my new pi.

My question is what is currently the “best” type of install to use? (Since starting with Domoticz many years ago i always used the “easy” install from the Wiki)

Is the easy still the recommended one or should i go for a docker installation or something else.
(I read somewhere the docker install makes the system less flexible)

Also which zigbee implementation to use? Currently i use ZigbeeforDomoticz (Silicon Labs EZSP coordinator) but Zigbee2MQTT seems to be compatible with more devices.

For Zwave i understand i should move from OpenZwave to ZWaveJS2MQTT.

Also if there will be a Matter implementation in Domoticz, which type of install is most likely to be compatible with such an implementation.

Who can and wants to share their thoughts and advise.

Thanks a bunch :D
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If you are not planning other roles/software on the RPi I would suggest going the Easy route. Why would you introduce another layen (eg. Docker) if you do not need to seperate roles.

The KISS principle is your best aproach ;)
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@Sjonnie2017, thank you for your view. I share your view on a good kiss

I may want to install and use Home Automation on the same pi to try it out. I like to use the same hardware for both Domoticz and HA (modules voor RFXcom, Zwave en Zigbee) Does this change the advise?

Also i like to know which Zigbee implementation i can best use
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If you plan to use other MQTT hardware gateways then you can use Zigbee2MQTT with Domoticz MQTT AD gateway. It is the most used Zigbee gateway.
If you do not need or want an extra MQTT layer you can use the Zigbee4Domoticz Python plugin.
But I see you are also going to use Zwave-JS-UI with MQTT AD so then is Zigbee2MQTT the logic choice.
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Post by gizmocuz »

I would use docker compose.

It is very easy to install, and you know it is just going to work.

You do not have to install dependencies, use a certain operating system, and it will keep your system clean.

Overhead? Nothing, it runs at 99% native speed..

And when you are going to use zigbee/zwave/mqtt, you can install these in separate docker containers as well.

Easy to update and revert
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Yes, that does change the original advice. In case you want to utilise Domoticz and "that other home automation software" ;) you might be best of using docker. It will however be challenging using for instance you Zigbee devices in both applications. Not impossible, just a hassle.

Good luck with your decision proces!
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Re: Fresh install Domoticz

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Thank you all for the input :D
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