Crow Runner and AAP Alarm Plugin

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Re: Crow Runner and AAP Alarm Plugin

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jokkydee wrote: Thursday 17 January 2019 3:06 Ok, so I got the 2.10.3628 from AAP, found the firmware update tool online somewhere, managed to use my homemade serial interface dongle to upload the firmware, and now I can telnet :D I haven't connected it to my alarm panel yet, so STATUS gives nothing back, but when I connect through telnet I get a NOP, and I can send the RL1 and RL2 commands and the relays come on for the set period time, so I'm pretty confident it should work when I connect it up to the panel (I'm not sure if there are any other commands that will work without it being connected to the panel).

I'm wondering about the relays though, sending RL1 will only pulse the relay on for a set period as determined in the IP control setup - do you know if there's a way to control them without a timer but just ON or OFF?

Also, I tried seeing if the inputs would work, but when I short out the 2K2 resistor which is across the input and GND, it resets the whole board (??), have you got these working? I did enable them in the control setup. If I disable them, shorting out the resistor doesn't reset the board.
Honestly i never played with inputs since id didn't needed them, i handle everything with either z-wave or wi-fi when it comes to it. So it seems you are alone on this. I am attaching the 2.10.3628 commands manual in case you don't have them.
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Re: Crow Runner and AAP Alarm Plugin

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Similar - the only output on the alarm I use is the garage door, which it was designed for.
Sounds like you have the network issue sorted, but mine has behaved as expected on my network.
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Re: Crow Runner and AAP Alarm Plugin

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jokkydee wrote: Thursday 17 January 2019 9:05 Another question I have is, the App Elite firmware allowed me to enable DCHP, but this firmware does not. Does that mean I must now disable my DCHP on my router and set everything to static? I tried reserving a static IP for the MAC address of the IP Module but I can't seem to connect to it through my router. Only by setting my PC with a static and talking directly to it.

EDIT: Nevermind, this turned out to be a cable problem to my network switch
In order for IP-Control to work (With or without Domoticz) properly, it is advised that you use static IP address...
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Re: Crow Runner and AAP Alarm Plugin

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Connected it up to the alarm panel, and all is working as expected now. I realised that the relay commands being momentary in nature could be handy if I want the act in place of push buttons.
Next thing is figuring out how to implement this in my Home Assistant, as I'm not using Domoticz, but I'll see if I can gain any insights from your Domoticz plugin. Not to mention putting this whole thing through a VPN or something, as this setup seems super insecure - anyone can just open this port and talk to my alarm :?

On a completely different note; since I can connect to my alarm panel via the serial port using the adapter, has anyone figured out how to use the upload/download Runner software to download the panel settings?
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Actually as long as you don't open that port to outside world on your router, it is secure, nobody can access it. The only access will be from your LAN;if you don't invite hackers to your house frequently, i guess that won't also be a problem :D
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I use Node-Red (via MQTT) to link to Home Assistant and it works well.
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Re: Crow Runner and AAP Alarm Plugin

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jokkydee wrote: Wednesday 16 January 2019 12:35 I've managed to get hold of an IP-Module, but it has firmware version 2.10.4727, and as it has support for the Elite App control, I suspect I'll be needing firmware from AAP. Problem is, I don't have a D-Link USB. From what I gather though, this is basically just a UART to USB converter. I managed to find the TX, RX and GND pins on the 10 way header, and have it hooked up to a UART to USB converter as a COM port.
Hi,

I'm in a similar situation. I have a Crow Runner 8/16 and the IP-Module board but I can't get hold of a D-Link USB cable. I have a FTDI RS-232 to USB cable, C232HM-DDHSL-0. Can you please share your findings on the location of the TX, RX and GND pins on the 10-way header on the IP-Module board?

Many thanks.
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Re: Crow Runner and AAP Alarm Plugin

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Hi Marchino,

Attached is a photo showing the pinout. It's not necessary to connect power between the IP board and the FTDI board, but make sure your FTDI board is running at 3V3, not 5V, otherwise you might damage your board. You'll just need to power the IP board with it's normal supply while programming. I assume you have the necessary software to update the firmware from AAP.

By the way, I think most of us here are now using Home Assistant, which I highly recommend. Febalci has created a custom component to interface between HA and the IP module. You can find the thread here: https://community.home-assistant.io/t/c ... ule/130588

Goodluck!
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jokkydee wrote: Saturday 19 October 2019 3:45 By the way, I think most of us here are now using Home Assistant, which I highly recommend. Febalci has created a custom component to interface between HA and the IP module. You can find the thread here: https://community.home-assistant.io/t/c ... ule/130588
Whoa, didn't realise this. There was me using Node-Red alongside MQTT and a bunch of custom bits to make it work. Will have to try this sometime.
Can you setup the outputs e.g. I have my garage door linked as a controllable output?
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It's still early stages - it's just Febalci who wrote it very recently, and I'm the only beta tester :D (I don't know enough about software to help with development). We're the only two on the forum. but so far all monitoring works and arm/disarm works.

I don't think Febalci has implemented that, but you could ask him about it. Or if you wanna have a look at the code and see if you can contribute, great also - the more people involved the better ;)
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Re: Crow Runner and AAP Alarm Plugin

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jokkydee wrote: Tuesday 22 October 2019 0:56 It's still early stages - it's just Febalci who wrote it very recently, and I'm the only beta tester :D (I don't know enough about software to help with development). We're the only two on the forum. but so far all monitoring works and arm/disarm works.

I don't think Febalci has implemented that, but you could ask him about it. Or if you wanna have a look at the code and see if you can contribute, great also - the more people involved the better ;)
Great thanks. I'm following the thread on the HA forums and will give it a try when I have some spare time!
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Re: Crow Runner and AAP Alarm Plugin

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jokkydee wrote: Saturday 19 October 2019 3:45 Hi Marchino,

Attached is a photo showing the pinout. It's not necessary to connect power between the IP board and the FTDI board, but make sure your FTDI board is running at 3V3, not 5V, otherwise you might damage your board. You'll just need to power the IP board with it's normal supply while programming. I assume you have the necessary software to update the firmware from AAP.

By the way, I think most of us here are now using Home Assistant, which I highly recommend. Febalci has created a custom component to interface between HA and the IP module. You can find the thread here:

[image]https://community.home-assistant.io/t/c ... ule/130588[/image]

Goodluck!

IP Module serial.jpg
Hello everybody,

I’m new to the forum, I have a Crow Runner panel 8/16, and I’m just trying to connect my computer to the alarm panel through an UART-TTL USB adapter that would be wired to the D-LINK Interface on my panel. I pretend to use the Upload/Download program (from manufacturer Crow) on my computer, so I can make a backup of the running configuration of my alarm panel.

The D-LINK interface is inside a red rectangle on the following image of my panel:

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Looking at the interface on my panel, it is exactly the same interface that @jokkydee showed up on his post, although it is from an Crow IP module.

The "one million dollar question" is:

The D-Link interface on my panel has the same pinout that @jokkydee refers?

The UART-TTL USB adapter that I bought is one of those that has a jumper, where I will set the voltage to 3,3V and I pretend to follow the @JokkyDee directions and connect as follow:

(UART-TTL) TX <----> RX (Crow Runner D-LINK Interface on motherboard panel)
(UART-TTL) RX <----> TX (Crow Runner D-LINK Interface on motherboard panel)

And what about GND? What should I do?

I have to connect the GND pin (on UART side) to all the four GND pins (@jokkydee marked as GND) on interface D-LINK side?

Besides GND do I need to connect any other pins between UART-TTL and the 14 pin D-LINK interface on the Runner motherboard panel?
I’m reading the interface on my panel as follow:

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Pins 1, 7, 8 and 14 are not used on the connection
Pin 6 is RX
Pin 12 is TX
Pins 4, 9, 10 and 11 are all GND

Can anyone, please, answer my "one million dollar" question so I do not fry my panel…

Thanks in advance!
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Re: Crow Runner and AAP Alarm Plugin

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I've already received the UART-TTL with has the same chip D-LINK cable has and used the pinout I presented above, but it does not work, the software blinks TX led but no RX activity...no luck at all..still stuck...
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