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Easiest way to migrate Openzwave to ZWave-JS-UI

Post by Quax1507 »

Hi,

I have noticed, Openzwave support will be dropped in one of the next beta versions.

Is there an easy way to migrate all Z-Wave devices to ZWave-JS-UI?
At the moment, I have 100+ devices in OZW, which results in 160+ devices in Domoticz.

The migration procedure of replacing 160+ devices manually, one by one, seems to be pretty laborious
I wonder if there is an easier way?

Any suggestions are welcome!

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Re: Easiest way to migrate Openzwave to ZWave-JS-UI

Post by waltervl »

See the wiki page, there is a plan to migrate.
https://www.domoticz.com/wiki/Zwave-JS-UI
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Re: Easiest way to migrate Openzwave to ZWave-JS-UI

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Yes,I have seen this.
This means, going through 160 devices and replace one by one.
Not really desirable...
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Re: Easiest way to migrate Openzwave to ZWave-JS-UI

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i cant do it, i dont knwo what the problem is.


i dont use dokker, so i have chose for the snap way

https://zwave-js.github.io/zwave-js-ui/ ... er-methods



but what now ???


the wiki is not really clear how to install ZWave-JS-UI
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Re: Easiest way to migrate Openzwave to ZWave-JS-UI

Post by JackD »

I really hope that you leave open z-wave in Domoticz as it is, next to the new ZWave-JS-UI functionality.
Even if open z-wave does not seems to be updated anymore, all I need and have runs with open z-wave
I would hate to migrate everything. Not much of a problem is you have just a few devices, but I got a lot, and everything works fine, for years now, and still does. So a bit silly to pull the plug on open z-wave in Domoticz when many people still use it.

I have 4 acquaintances who use Domoticz and z-wave devices, three of them still use open z-wave.

So please leave the open z-wave functionality in Domoticz. :oops: :geek: :!:
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Whats the best way to install ZWave-JS on Windows? Most of the ways listed on the wiki seem to be Linux specific

Edit: Also if I understand it correctly, is openzwave still included with the installation but just not longer recommended? Or has it been removed completely?
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Re: Easiest way to migrate Openzwave to ZWave-JS-UI

Post by Micha123 »

Im also happy with OpenZwave, everything is running, i can configure all my devices within domoticz,

Why use 3rd party softwares like dokker, or something else.


I dont know how i can install node js. Im installed it by the snap way but what now,?

The wiki what you need and what to do to bring node js is not really clear if you wil install it without dokker.

So an step by step how to what is needed do install and migrate wil be fine.
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Re: Easiest way to migrate Openzwave to ZWave-JS-UI

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Why is OpenZwave about being removed?

viewtopic.php?t=39291 says:
As of this moment the usage is also deprecated and support for this will be dropped in a near beta version.
Please keep it in Domoticz!
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calania wrote: Sunday 06 November 2022 17:03 Whats the best way to install ZWave-JS on Windows? Most of the ways listed on the wiki seem to be Linux specific

Edit: Also if I understand it correctly, is openzwave still included with the installation but just not longer recommended? Or has it been removed completely?
I'm running on Windows as well and just upgraded to 2022.2. Everything including OZW is working without issue.

I too would like to hear from someone who transitioned to Z-Wave-JS-UI on Windows.
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Re: Easiest way to migrate Openzwave to ZWave-JS-UI

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Also finally happy with OZW and would hate to see it go. I did try the new JS but I had serious problems with Zipato RGB bulbs ( I have about 300 euros worth of these) and a Qubino themostat module. I am gradually replacing anything that fails with Zigbee.
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Re: Easiest way to migrate Openzwave to ZWave-JS-UI

Post by BartSr »

Allthough the result looks promising:

It might be of much help once a document will be released telling in detail how to migrate. The wiki as is now needs to provide more information. I can understand once you aware of all downloads, settings a.s.o. a.s.o. migration will be simple. But...... If you don't have that much knowledge of creating the required configuation this might be kind of nightmare.

Looking forward to more help.

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I hope this also will be remaining in the feature releases.

Everything works just fine. I'm not interested in redoing my whole zwave setup again.
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Re: Easiest way to migrate Openzwave to ZWave-JS-UI

Post by Gravityz »

i just upgraded to 2022.14599
everything seems to work including zwave
i do not think they will get rid of openzwave but if future versions somehow break zwave functionality then we are screwed.

regarding MQTT
i notice that there is still a lot of changs going on. devices which do not get recognized the right way.
diifferent plugins used

at the moment i have
MQTT gateway client
Shelly MQTT
the new auto discovery gateway client
not installed yet zwave js-ui(is this the new zwave2mqtt)

it would be nice what the new endgame will look like

will(and can)the MQTT autodiscovery gateway client replace the standard mqtt client?
will(and can) the MQTT autodiscovery gateway client replace the shelly plugin?
is the zwave-js-ui the replacement for the old zwave2mqtt

what exactly is being discovered when you hit the discover button

i have devices installed through RFXcom which send out their data through MQTT(because of the MQTT client)
will these devices also show up when you use mqtt auto discovery client (e.g do i need to disable the old one)

lot's of questions
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Re: Easiest way to migrate Openzwave to ZWave-JS-UI

Post by JackD »

After almost a year of not updating Domoticz, and the fear of the loss of Open Z-wave support in future releases, I updated Domoticz yesterday to beta14599. And can report that in beta14599 the open z-wave is still functional, but in the log there is a note that tells it is depreciated.

Perhaps make a super Domoticz docker container which has it all, Domoticz, ZWave-JS-UI, Mosquitto and everything else you need, including a very detailed and up to date step by step installation manual. Then you again have the "one stop shop" and would make it a lot easier for us not IT specialists. Just a suggestion, don't know it this is technically possible :oops:

Sorry for the bit of nagging, of course I appreciate all you who spent there time in building and maintaining Domoticz.
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Re: Easiest way to migrate Openzwave to ZWave-JS-UI

Post by BartSr »

OK, I tried docker. Install docker was succesfull but than I did :
docker pull ghcr.io/zwave-js/zwave-js-ui:sha-d050453
this ended up with: 2022-11-07 23:22:34 (5,33 MB/s) - '‘docker-compose.yml.6’' opgeslagen [998/998] (probably the .6 because I tried several times)
And now I don't know how to proceed further. Any suggestions?
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Re: Easiest way to migrate Openzwave to ZWave-JS-UI

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I checked the Wiki and it seems that the (rather sparse) instructions require a UI on the device using Domoticz - well I am using a raspberry headless and am stumped as to how to configure zwavejs2mqtt

I used this guide to get zwavejs2mqtt running:

Code: Select all

 https://github.com/zwave-js/zwave-js-ui/discussions/1216#discussion-3364776
And installed MQTT autodiscovery for ZWave in the hardware section of Domoticz - pointing to Localhost.

And now I’m stumped!


Maybe someone who has migrated from OZW to zwaveJsMQTT on a raspberry headless could be kind enough to advise how to set this up - otherwise I’m stuck with OZW.
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Re: Easiest way to migrate Openzwave to ZWave-JS-UI

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To configure Z-Wave JS UI, you must access it via your web browser at http://localhost:8091 on the machine on which it was run, or at the IP address of your remote installation on port 8091 (ie http://Domoticz-IP:8091)
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Re: Easiest way to migrate Openzwave to ZWave-JS-UI

Post by BartSr »

Ok, Docker installed etc.
⠿ Network pi_zwave Created 0.8s
⠿ Volume "zwave-config" Created
[+] Running 1/1
⠿ Container zwave-js-ui Started
⠿ Container zwave-js-ui Running
So far I expected to be able to get the UI by
http://localhost:8091
but then the connection was refused

How to proceed?
Thanks for yr help
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Re: Easiest way to migrate Openzwave to ZWave-JS-UI

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and if you use the ip address instead of localhost
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Re: Easiest way to migrate Openzwave to ZWave-JS-UI

Post by BartSr »

Same result
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