Outdoor Z-wave PIR

[Bikey]

Hi, I'm looking for a good Z-wave Plus PIR-sensor for outdoor use.
Most important is a good battery life and range and adjustable to only trigger at adjustable low level conditions (to save battery).
Who can recommend one?

[Egregius]

I am also quite interested in this one.
Didn't find much outdoor stuff yet.

[mbliek]

The new Aeotec Multisensor 6 can be used outside. But they recommend to switch off the PIR because of the reliability. But I think you need to test it.

I'm having a Fibaro Motion sensor outside. But it's protected from direct rain. Haven't got any false detections so far.

[Egregius]

The Fibaro 'Eye'?
Also tought about that one. And to put some kind of grease between the lid so it's more waterproof. There's a kind of grease that's used for waterproof flashlights.
Downside of this one is that it has to be high enough so they can't reach it.

[mbliek]

Yes, the "eye"

Mine is at 3 meters from the ground and under the gutter.

[Bikey]

Anybody experience with the Aeon Labs Multisensor 4in1 (z-wave plus)? It is supposed to be for outside as well.
How about the battery life? I mainly want to use it as a PIR-sensor to switch on my outdoor lights at the backside of my house where there should be almost no triggers.

* Edit * I see some bad reviews on this sensor, and although it is Z-wave plus it seems to be already discontinued?

[Bikey]

The new Aeotec Multisensor 6 can be used outside. But they recommend to switch off the PIR because of the reliability.

What do you mean with reliability: that it would cause false alarms? Is the PIR only not reliable outside, or is the whole PIR-implmentation unreliable?

[mbliek]

Its very common for these PIRS that they are not reliable outside because of the weather change they can give false motion detections.

[gcoupe]

I've got an Everspring SP103 outdoors. I had some problems with it in Domoticz when it was first installed, but it's been running fault-free since March. It's claiming that its batteries are at the 90% level (after 11 months operation).

[Bikey]

I've got an Everspring SP103 outdoors. I had some problems with it in Domoticz when it was first installed, but it's been running fault-free since March. It's claiming that its batteries are at the 90% level (after 11 months operation).

Hi, encouraged by your answer I bought the Everspring SP103. After fiddling with the installation, It reported itself with 3 devices, of which I found out one is the IR-sensor, the second one is connected to the tamper switch, but what is the third one? I guess it is the battery level is that correct? But why is this reported as a separate device, is the level in the hardware list not the proper level (it currently shows 100%)?

Also why is the tamper switch always open? It sends an "On" signal when I open the device, but it never sends an "Off".

I have not done extensive testing yet, but at a certain point the unit seemed asleep and did not send any PIR-commands anymore. It could only be get it back alive by opening the back cover thus activating the tamper switch. So the question is: you have changed the wake-up interval from the default value 14400 or any other settings? I have enabled polling for the device, is that correct?

I'm new with Z-Wave, so excuse me if these are newbie questions

[gcoupe]

I haven't enabled polling, and I haven't changed any settings. When Domoticz starts up, it can take a while (a few hours?) before the sensor starts getting reported, but then everything appears to be working as it should.

[Bikey]

Ok, thanks. How many and what kind of devices are reported by your Everspring SP103?

[gcoupe]

Three devices shown:
1. Switch (goes on when motion is detected for a short period, then returns to off)
2. Alarm type
3. Alarm level

I only use the first. I use the OpenZWave control panel to check on the reported battery level.

[competer]

I also bought the Everspring SP103 Motion Sensor, but it is on it way back to the supplier.

This (or just mine) stops working when the temerature dorps below 0.
Looking for a good alternative.

Any advice?

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[MikaelHakim]

I am looking for a Z-wave PIR for outdoor use. Location is Finland so it should be able to work below 0C degrees. No direct rain resistance needed. Any experience?

[assenzuid]

I am also looking for a Z-wave PIR for outdoor use.

[lost]

I am also looking for a Z-wave PIR for outdoor use.

I have a Fibaro "eye", not designed for outdoor but not exposed to rain (under a roof extension over font access door): This one is a no brainer and sensitivity can be tuned for animals compatibility etc... Proved OK since 18 months.

On the back, I have some zipato 4 in 1 (pst02-1a) that are under (base looking orientation) windows upper wall/opening (with just a plastic corner lug adding a bit of extern side protection) that have "door" switch used to trigger if the shutter is opened (if they were closed, cause at night or on vacations) and PIR if someone approach when shutters are opened (day hours): So, shutter opened or closed, alarm is able to trigger even before someone can try to break a (burglar resistant) window!

This last one is a bit trickier to setup (some association group+parameter tuning I may detail if someone is interested) but with unmatched combination of PIR/door-switch, so I had to cope with this. Also not designed for external use, but at least with extended Tre range & proved OK if protected/not exposed to rain. Door contact is a sealed "reed" one, so should not be affected by low temp, even under spec. PIR sensitivity lowered from default 80 to 30/40 it's also OK with animals (cats, small dogs). After (heavier than usual) setup work, looks OK for now

[assenzuid]

I have an Fibaro eye, just indoor. I will try it if it will works outdoor.

[Ernstl]

In Germany the Company „Steinel“ is New to z-Wave. They are Known for Lights and Sensors.
They sell a IS-140 2 PIR.
I have no experience with it.