Fibaro wall plug broken?

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Have been using a few Fibaro wall plugs since about a year ago. While they work fine in the sense that they stabilised the mesh network and report power etc. accurately they seem to cause some serious problems as well, at least on occasion. I think the others have done this as well but now the culprit is a wall plug that is connected to our Dishwasher. I've tried pretty much everything I can think of, exclude/include of course, changing the parameters so that reporting would be less frequent etc. but still - it keeps reporting energy usage and wattage dozens of times a minute and this combined to lot of event scripts makes the Domoticz quite sluggish.

This is not from the worst instance but just an example of what is happening all the time, sometimes much more frequently:

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2017-01-19 12:29:05.903 (AotecZstick) Usage (Tiskikone W)
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Note: the diswasher (tiskikone) is idle here, no load (ok well, it sometimes goes to 0.3W).

What is also strange, I took away the switch form the wall and these update messages still kept coming until I restarted Domoticz. Also my latest attempt to exclude/include was not successful anymore as nothing happened - so I went ahead and hard reseted the plug. When including as a new device, it first seemed to be ok but quite soon this behaviour started again.

This particular plug is z-wave+, Domoticz (latest beta) sees it with exact same parameters as the non-+ Fibaro plugs. Can this mean something, should it be recognised in some other way than the "old" plugs (they are bought around the same time though)?

For some reason the problems with the z-wave devices escalated when I added an RFLink. Power Supply is original 2.5A RPi adapter so I guess it should be ok. I have only added a couple of RFLink switches so far. There's been strange behaviour with these time to time but everything has still worked pretty smoothly. Now the situation is worse in a long long time and Domoticz is often quite unresponsive and thus Monit also keeps restarting it at least a few times a day. Maybe coinsidence but nothing this severe was happening when there was no RFLink (and biggest problems went away when I took it out for a week or so). Still, RFLink itself seems to be working well and all problems (= too frequent updates) seem to be happening with z-wave. Controller is Aeoteck Gen5 usb stick.

Any ideas would be welcome

[Domosapiens]

Any ideas would be welcome

You give a lot of words but not many facts.

The minimum is that you mention the type of the Fibaro wall plug.
Then ... make a snapshot of the Fibaro configuration.
The Fibaro FGWPE has f.i.:
parameter 40, 42, 43, 45 and 47 that are involved in power measurement and/or reporting.
How do these parameters compare to your other Fibaro's (from unknown type)?

Did you try to remove the particular Fibaro from your zwcfg_0x.......xml cache file ?
- Dis-able your Z-Wave controller
- edit the zwcfg_0x.......xml cache file
- remove the concerned node section
- Enable your Z-Wave controller
Domoticz will fill the cache file with fresh info for that node.

[Nautilus]

Thanks for the reply and point taken...

The plug in question is FGWPF-102-ZW5, the others are type FGWPF-101. In Domoticz they are all identified as "FIBARO System FGWPE Wall Plug" with id 0x1000 and type 0x0600.

The parameters involved in power measurement and/or reporting were first at default (when I took the plugs into use). I've increased them (for all plugs) as problems have emerged. The plug in question currently has these values:

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There does not seem to be any noticeable effect when changing the values. But for example if I set parameter 1 active (always on), I cannot turn it off anymore so in that sense the settings seem to work.

The last bit (removing from cache file) I have not tried yet but I can test it later today.

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Well, now I feel a bit stupid. Took the dishwasher plug off and vola, reporting stopped (although, it doesn't explain the earlier behaviour where it kept showing in Domoticz long after I had disconnected the whole thing).

It seems that the voltage goes between 0-0.3W which is of course "unlimitedly" big percentage change, could this be the cause? I wonder what causes it in any case as the power of the dishwasher is of course off, some ghost load in the wires or something. And as mentioned, it has not been nearly as bad as this for a long time so maybe something is going broken with the washer...

[Domosapiens]

FGWPF-102-ZW5, the others are type FGWPF-101

So not the same!

I see a number of activities on the OpenZwave forum:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searc ... :relevance
A new fgwpfzw5.xml is produced by boardmember YcKe (also active here)
To try that one you have to find out if there is an ID/Type difference (that could be neglected by Domoticz; showing now both with the same Id)

Can you swap one of the other FGWPF's to the diswasher (tiskikone) position?

Could it be that your diswasher (tiskikone) is sleeping/waking and power consumption goes from, say 0.1 Watt to 0.3 Watt
and reports that (5 times per 30 seconds ) because of parameter 42 (change bigger than 50%) ?

just my 2 cents.

(edit:missed your post)

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FGWPF-102-ZW5, the others are type FGWPF-101

So not the same!

Yes, as I said also in the first post this was the z-wave+ type and the others are older (non-+). Or did you mean something else?

I see a number of activities on the OpenZwave forum:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searc ... :relevance
A new fgwpfzw5.xml is produced by boardmember YcKe (also active here)

Thanks, this looks like promising source - need to try the new xml asap...

Can you swap one of the other FGWPF's to the diswasher (tiskikone) position?

Good idea, could try that as well. But maybe I first try to set it up with the new xml and see what it does not to forget your last point...

Could it be that your diswasher (tiskikone) is sleeping/waking and power consumption goes from, say 0.1 Watt to 0.3 Watt
and reports that (5 times per 30 seconds ) because of parameter 42 (change bigger than 50%) ?

Just beat you to this conclusion Guess it means it does not even help to have the correct xml if the dishwasher itself is causing this. It would be nice if there was also a absolute wattage parameter so that you could e.g. define not to report changes smaller than 1W...

Thanks for the link and good suggestions!

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Here's how it affects the cpu usage.
The first arrow points approximately to the time I added the RFLink. Still not sure how it fits this all, probably just a coincidence.
The second arrow is when I unplugged the dishwasher. Some of the spikes are from reboots, happened a few times today.

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[Domosapiens]

Looks as your Z-Wave network is overloaded with reports.

Added to Domoticz 10 days ago:
Config/fibaro/fgwpfzw5.xml
It has different configuration items compared to the non-Zwave+

So take the latest Domoticz beta
- Stop Z-Wave
- edit the zwcfg_0x.......xml cache file, remove the concerned node section
- Start Z-Wave
- check if it's recognized according to the manufacturer_specific.xml file:

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<Product type="0602" id="1001" name="FGWPF Wall Plug Gen5" config="fibaro/fgwpfzw5.xml" />

- check if the configuration options are different compared to the non-Zwave+ version
https://github.com/domoticz/domoticz/co ... 30436bf589
- Fiddle with Parameters 11 up to 14

Success

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Thanks. I find it rather strange that yesterday when I did the exclude -> hard reset -> include and had just updated to latest beta, it was still recognized as the old FGWPE wall plug. Well, I'll try the method suggested by you above to see if it works better. All in all, the parameters looked pretty much the same. Also noticed there is new xml for fgmszw5. In my setup this was recognized (when I set it up a year ago I mean) with different type (0x800 vs 0x801) but the .xml was same for both. Now I hope with this new configuration this would also stop sending multiple On/Off commands when movement is detected.

Looks as your Z-Wave network is overloaded with reports.

Yes, I know. That's why I'm trying to do something about it I have 19 z-wave devices and have seen that there are users with close to 100 devices so I know it should not have quite as big impact with 19 devices yet...

[Nautilus]

Well, I'll try the method suggested by you above to see if it works better.

Hmm, no it is still recognized as the old model. Checked that the new file was in /Config/Fibaro, stopped z-wave, removed the part between <node></node> for this particular device and then restarted. It picked up the configuration file for old model

Edit: plot thickens... I found a page saying that Fibaro just released about a month ago the z-wave+ wall plug. So I compared all my four Fibaro plugs (thought I might have mixed them) and the text on the side is identical in each. So probably there wasn't even a z-wave+ Fibaro plug when I bought it, the seller just rated both items that I bought as z-wave+ (I bought one plug and one movement sensor, looks like the sensor really is z-wave+). I bought the three other plugs in one batch and seller did not claim them as z-wave+ (also price was considerably lower)... So case closed in this respect.

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Well, just to add some sort of conclusion. I checked all my FGMS motion sensors as well and within them there was also the same model number text under the "back cover" of the sphere. But the one sold as zwave+ (and recognized as different id, 0x0801 vs 0x0800 even with old xml files in config) is now recognized as "FIBARO System FGMS001-ZW5 Motion Sensor" so it is using the new zw5 xml. Guess it really is zw5 Later I learned there might be some bugs on the new zw5 xml for this sensor but at least it is working normally (well, it gives the "alarm level: secure" message and triggers tamper sensor, but I think it was working the same way also with the old xml )

Anyhow, the issue of frequent updates of the wall plug is pretty much solved with switching the plug off when not used. Seems that the plug does not like to be on when there is no real load. Don't know why it worked better earlier, maybe something has changed with the dishwasher.

The next thing I'm wondering is what my Domoticz is doing every 4-5 hours based on increased CPU usage. Logs reveal nothing and there does not seem to be any other process using the CPU...

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[vaevictis]

For a friend I would like to know if this plug can be used with solar panels i.e. read out power production.
Negative values are ok.

[Nautilus]

Hi, maybe better luck if you ask in some other thread or make a new one. And maybe there is even some forum dedicated to Fibaro products. As this thread is quite old and it was started to solve my issues with (assumed to be) a broken Fibaro plug, I suspect there are not too many who would read it and catch you question. I myself don't have any experience with solar panels but I doubt this product would fit the purpose very well...