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Flow Stop gas/water shut-off controller

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Flow Stop gas/water shut-off controller
POPE009501

I can control this valve from the control panel. But i cant control it from a Domoticz button.
I think it is detected as something else "strike lock control" but it is a water valve.

Has anyone solved this?
Is the problem in Domoticz or/and openzwave?

http://www.popp.eu/products/actuators/flow-stop/

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Ulf
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looks like it is recognized like a dimmer....
ever tried something like 'Setlevel 100' ?

having a look to the manual...
parameter 1 should be set to 1... can you check if it's NOT 4?

more... is a device switch have been created by domoticz to control it? or are you willing to operate it using a virtual (dummy) switch?
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I have tried it as a dimmer and switch
I get this message in the log file:
2017-01-14 09:29:02.439 Error, Node045, ERROR: Dropping command, expected response not received after 1 attempt(s)
2017-01-14 09:29:02.439 Always,

I'm willing to control it with a virtual device! Can you show me how to do it!

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looks like the device isn't in range.....
"expected response not received after 1 attempt(s)"

can you try to:
remove (unpair) the device
update to latest beta,
reinclude the device
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But the device works when i change state in the OZW control panel. The i can open/close the valve.
Do you still think that i need to exclude/include the device!
I have the latest beta installed.
Is it possible to control the device from a virtual switch with lua!
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yes, i is, but it does not really make sense (my fault)

you can controll it, but the lua script will act on the logical device that doesn't work now....
so it would be useless
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Do you have an idea how i can control it via script or something!

Can you help me what i shall write to control it (LUA, PHP, BASH script or what)

//Ulf
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Hi, I have the same problem.

Found a list of the supported devices in OpenZWave: http://www.openzwave.com/device-database
In there I cannot find the FlowStop http://www.popp.eu/products/actuators/flow-stop/ but I cant find the recognized http://www.popp.eu/products/actuators/s ... k-control/ either...

Anyone with any bright ideas?
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I have from the vendor where this POPE009501 was bought been advised to bring the manufacturer together with OpenZwave to in the end get true support for the product.
Having made contact with [email protected] I now hope for a swift resolution..
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Anybody knows if it is likely to, by yourself, use https://github.com/OpenZWave/open-zwave ... ng-Devices and successfully add this Flow Stop controller correctly in OpenZWave?
Or do you have to get a bunch of facts from the manufacturer http://www.popp.eu?
They have yet to even respond to my plea for help..
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Technical Data
Dimensions 70x93x77 mm
Weight 340 gr
Hardware Platform ZM3102
EAN 0019962009501
Device Type Central Controller
Generic Device Class Binary Switch
Specific Device Class Binary Switch
Z-Wave Version 4.54.02
Certification ID ZC08-14030002
Z-Wave Product Id 0x0154.0x0003.0x0512
Valve Pressure 1.6 Mpa
Valve Sizes 1/2 inc, 3/4 inc, 1 inc, 1.25 inc, 1.5 inc
Auto Close Time 10 seconds
Auto Open Time 10 seconds
http://manuals-backend.z-wave.info/make ... &type=popp
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Supported Command Classes

Switch All
Basic
Manufacturer Specific
Switch Binary
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After quite some time fiddleling with this I managed to get the switch to work in Domotics by doing this (sorry if not explained correctly, since I don't usually play around in Linux much):
Correct the wrong in: /home/username/domoticz/Config/manufacturer_specific.xml
Look for <Manufacturer id="0154" name="Popp">
change (for example by using nano)
<Product type="0005" id="0001" name="012501 Strike Lock Control" config="popp/012501.xml" />
to
<Product type="0005" id="0001" name="009501 Flow Stop" config="popp/009501.xml" />

Add the file 009501.xml in /home/username/domoticz/Config/popp/
--I will try to add the config-file I conjured--

I decided to remove my OpenZwave config-file to have the device correctly recognized:
sudo service domoticz stop
cd //home/username/domoticz/Config/
sudo rm zwcfg*.*
sudo service domoticz start


Add the switch (Secure with 3 clicks)

In the part of the OpenZwave config-file describing the node where the switch is (zwcfg_0xXXXXXXXX.xml where the eight X-es represent your Home ID), remove these lines connected to COMMAND_CLASS_SWITCH_MULTILEVEL
<CommandClass id="38" name="COMMAND_CLASS_SWITCH_MULTILEVEL" version="1">
<Instance index="1" />
<Value type="byte" genre="user" instance="1" index="0" label="Level" units="" read_only="false" write_only="false" verify_changes="fals$
<Value type="button" genre="user" instance="1" index="1" label="Bright" units="" read_only="false" write_only="true" verify_changes="fa$
<Value type="button" genre="user" instance="1" index="2" label="Dim" units="" read_only="false" write_only="true" verify_changes="false$
<Value type="bool" genre="system" instance="1" index="3" label="Ignore Start Level" units="" read_only="false" write_only="false" verif$
<Value type="byte" genre="system" instance="1" index="4" label="Start Level" units="" read_only="false" write_only="false" verify_chang$
</CommandClass>

sudo service domoticz stop
sudo nano zwcfg_0xXXXXXXXX.xml
sudo service domoticz start


After that It should be working to control the switch with Domoticz.
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HI

I can change the setting in the controlpanel. (Turn off LED and change behavior on push button)
But i cant open close the valve!

What am i doing wrong?

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Hi
Thanks PjotrE for your sollution, now it works!
I have not executed the command ...... sudo rm zwcfg*.* (is that my personal zw config?)
Wat about new upgrades from domoticz (overwriting "manufacturer_specific.xml" ?)
will the device still working?
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Now it works fine for me to!
Can you please add this to the Z-wave library!
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After an update it stopped working. How do I solve this?
Can someone update the Zwave library!
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After an update of domoticz the valve stops working. What's the procedure to get the valve working again after an upgrade?

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HI!
Can anyone help me with this problem?
After an update of domoticz the valve stops working. What's the procedure to get the valve working again after an upgrade?
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Thanks for this post, solved my problem!!!
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