zigbee compatibility

[henryco]

Hello,

I found nowhere any clear answer to this question:
is there any compatibility between domoticZ and zigbee? a zigbee dongle recognized by domoticZ ?

thanks

[bbqkees]

Just the Philips Hue bridge for now.

[henryco]

And is there another free software similar to DomoticZ but Zigbee oriented ?

[dijkdj]

What do you want to support? ZIgbee is not as easy to link as Zwave. Zwave has a register of all the accepted devices. Domoticz only has to download that register. Zigbee is more open. I think its much harder to implement.

[henryco]

Yet there are commercial domotic softwares for zigbee such as for instance Wibee-PI (~ 120 euros ) and other Cleode products, and those dont need the products to have been registered , they just record the info sent through the x-bee modules AFAIK and make it available in an unified way in the software

so i was just wondering why nothing open source for zigbee ...i'm new to this domain so i'm trying to understand what's going on ... i naively thought that since zigbee is more open there would be also more opensource softwares available for it...

Zwave products are extremely expansive from what i could see, while with Xbees everybody could in principle build it's own connected devices out of the most elementary and costless sensors

[Evelen]

Just the Philips Hue bridge for now.

What About AppLamp? (maybe not zigbee?)

[nayr]

in this case, more open equates to manufacturers being open to implement proprietary functionality and unique behavior.. ie, Hue

see this as a perfect example: http://9to5mac.com/2015/12/15/philips-h ... rty-bulbs/

Z-Wave devices are required to interoperate and be certified they behave in a standard way... Zigbee, is exactly the opposite.

Also Zigbee uses 2.4GHz ISM and I dont know about you, but in my neck of the woods that band is polluted enough without 3 more dozen devices in my house talking on it.. 900Mhz ISM is more suited for this task, at least until Wifi comes in and wreaks that band too.

[henryco]

my interest is neither in zwave products nor in zigbee complete products
My interest could be in buidilng my own Personal mesh network out of Xbees that i would program myself and connect myself to the most costless sensors (most of them are availbale for several euros) ... but if there are no software opensource solution to unifiy all the data , that's less interesting. As for th 2.4 Ghz band , i dont think the bandwidth needed by a sensor network will make it unconfortable to live together with Wifi... and Zigbee can also work on below GHz frequencies right?

[bbqkees]

so i was just wondering why nothing open source for zigbee ...i'm new to this domain so i'm trying to understand what's going on ... i naively thought that since zigbee is more open there would be also more opensource softwares available for it...

Zwave products are extremely expansive from what i could see, while with Xbees everybody could in principle build it's own connected devices out of the most elementary and costless sensors

XBee is not that cheap either.

If you want to build your own solution you could use the NodeMCU/ESP8266 modules instead.
Very cheap and the comminicate via WiFi.

[henryco]

Thank you for the link, may be this will use the new version of WiFi designed for low energy consumption

[Derik]

Is there some progress in the Zigbee hardware?

[Pjedr]

https://tweakers.net/nieuws/123149/ikea ... rland.html

It would be usefull for the new IKEA lights.

[Derik]

Is there a Api?
Or is this usefull with Domoticz

[Buzzje]

Give Ikeas price and world wide availability, I would say this really is interesting!

[pvm]

There's a seperate tread on the ikea lights HERE
I mentions progress on interacting with these lights

[Hedda]

Many developers look to be making good progress with communicating with the new Ikea Trådfri Gateway (Tradfri hub) in much the same was as applications talk and control the Philips Hue Hub via its API. again there is already another thread about that:

viewtopic.php?f=56&t=13882

Also see:

http://www.domoticz.com/wiki/Ikea_Tradfri_Gateway

Summery; Ikea Trådfri Gateway has no SDK yet and the API is not public/documented so people are currently working on reverse engineer libraries and frameworks to talk to with it. They are look to be making a lot of pregress if you read this:

https://github.com/bwssytems/ha-bridge/issues/570

[Derik]

or the Xiaomi bridge with Zigbee. Works great in Domoticz And cheap sensors..!!
Not to build as DIY only very nice small working sensors..

[Hedda]

Problem as a I understand it with not using a bridge is being compatible with ZigBee devices from different vendors is that most ZigBee devices do not follow the exact same standard, and currently there is no common library like there is for Z-Wave, as there we have OpenZWave https://github.com/openzwave/

I guess what we need then a project that offer a "OpenZigBee" library that would be an open source and free library that talks to ZigBee devices from different vendors via a dongle and the ZigBee serial API?

[Hedda]

FYI; Home-Assistant have now added support direct communication with ZigBee devices via a ZigBee USB or serial (GPIO) dongle/adapter:

https://github.com/home-assistant/home- ... /pull/6263

Tested devices include:
SmartThings motion sensor (motion + temperature)
SmartThings arrival sensor
Iris door sensor (opening + temperature)
SmartThings Outlet
OSRAM Lightify tunable white bulb
Philips Hue dimmable bulb
Philips Hue color bulb
Ikea Trådfri E12 bulb

[Derik]

@ Hedda.
Did you have this working with Domoticz?