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Smoke sensor devices

Posted: Sunday 04 January 2015 16:41
by u01pei
I have just added 3 Fibaro smoke sensors (FGSS-001).
When I look in the device list I can see several devices per smoke sensor:
- smoke
- temperature
- alarm type
- alarm level
- general (also seen als unknown)

As for the first two devices: no problem adding them.
As for the last 3 devices: Does anyone know what they are for? as what type of device can they be added?

Also one more question about the smoke detector:
When it detects smoke, what state does it get? (i.e. ON, PANIC, etc)
I want to create an event using the smoke detector state, but currently there is no way of knowing if it will work, because of the unknown state.

Re: Smoke sensor devices

Posted: Sunday 04 January 2015 20:02
by whiteduck
Hi,
Could you simulate smoke by putting the FGSS near the toaster and overcooking a little :D - please take care of course!

Else you can get smoke detector testers like this http://www.amazon.co.uk/Aero-Smoke-Dete ... B006WOAZJ4

Cheers
Ian

Re: Smoke sensor devices

Posted: Sunday 04 January 2015 22:28
by Derik
Try first to exclude them!!!!!

And then wait a time.
And then include.

And make sure the sripts are turning off in the setings..

Re: Smoke sensor devices

Posted: Sunday 04 January 2015 22:43
In my system the FGSS appears as follows:

00328 General (no obvious function)
00329 Smoke Alarm
0032c Heat Alarm
00332 Tamper Alarm
00333 Alarm Type (no obvious function)
769 Temperature (TFA 30.133)


In my case I have alarm indicators assigned to 329, 32c and I do not bother with the tamper switch, but it is functional. I read out temperature continuously using the thermometer device.

I cannot explain the two extra functions. I do know however that the sensor contains a black-box recorder, and also that it carries out a self-test regularly. It is possible that the extra devices are linked to these functions.

On a practical note, I have found a few issues with false triggers if the smoke alarm sensitivity is set to "high": possibly due to condensation or dust? I therefore set to medium, and I note that a "conventional" smoke sensor is much more sensitive to kitchen vapours! I have also set teh temperature alarm trip point a bit lower than 54C - somewhere near 40C is probably adequate in a cooler country but this may violate local codes. Test using a hair drier...

Regards!

Re: Smoke sensor devices

Posted: Thursday 12 February 2015 14:04
by Bobba
mm In my case the General = the temper alarm XD
Had to find out my self by testing it so i renamed the general one.

0000229 Smoke Alarm
000022C Heat Alarm
0000228 General ( In my case its the temper alarm )
0000233 Alarm Type
0000232 Alarm Level
513 TFA 30.3133

Re: Smoke sensor devices

Posted: Thursday 22 October 2015 20:33
by RoadXY
Same for me: the first five numbers is the device number.
I have:

Smoke 1
0000428: General (Tamper)
0000429: Smoke
000042C: Heat
0000432: Alarm level
0000432: Alarm type

Smoke 2
0000528: General (Tamper)
0000529: Smoke
000052C: Heat
0000532: Alarm level
0000532: Alarm type

Smoke 3
0000628: General (Tamper)
0000629: Smoke
000062C: Heat
0000632: Alarm level
0000632: Alarm type

Re: Smoke sensor devices

Posted: Tuesday 16 February 2016 11:28
by stuiow
Anyone managed to track/log smoke level data in Domoticz?

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Re: Smoke sensor devices

Posted: Sunday 16 October 2016 16:15
by stuiow
Yeah that's pretty much it. I was soo hoping to get smoke levels graphed (handy with a log burner in the house!). But Domoticz doesn't do any more than you already mentioned, just use the output as on/off sensors (apart from temp).

When i added my smoke detectors, the temperature didn't come through straight away, that was eventually recognised a few hours later, and maybe even a Domoticz reboot helped too.

Re: Smoke sensor devices

Posted: Thursday 24 November 2016 17:53
by gooxbe
How did you manage to have the temperature?

It seems like mine (FGSD-002 likes to create crazy stuff:

00000633 Alarm Type
00000632 Alarm Level
00000629 Smoke
0000062C Heat Light/Switch
00000635 Burglar
00000636 Power Management
00000637 System
00000628 General
00000600 Sensor

They are all of type Light/Switch

Re: Smoke sensor devices

Posted: Thursday 24 November 2016 19:32
by dutchdevil83
@gooxbe Temperature device has some delay in being added to domoticz. Sometime it can takes a day and then it magically appears in the devices list! That is when you have enabled "allow new hardware" offcourse

Re: Smoke sensor devices

Posted: Thursday 15 December 2016 22:23
by Ernstl
I got the same Problem. Added 3 Fibaro FGSD-002 to domoticz. The last got a Temperature device, the other ones not.
Where do i have to enable "allow new hardware"?

Re: Smoke sensor devices

Posted: Thursday 15 December 2016 23:28
by stuiow
A reboot of domoticz usually brings the temperature device up.
Allow new hardware is in the settings screen

Re: Smoke sensor devices

Posted: Friday 16 December 2016 5:15
by Egregius
Patience ;)
Allow new hardware must be active, and not just for 5 minutes.
The temperature will arrive after it's changed and depending on the parameters 20-21.

Re: Smoke sensor devices

Posted: Friday 16 December 2016 18:14
by Ernstl
I found the settings, but i can´t change the button "5-Minutes"?
Or ist it activated when the checkbox is set?

Re: Smoke sensor devices

Posted: Friday 16 December 2016 19:52
by Egregius
Checkbox ;)

Re: Smoke sensor devices

Posted: Saturday 17 December 2016 13:41
by Ernstl
Okay. Got the second one, one still missing.
Should i wait or exclude and include the missing smoke device?

Re: Smoke sensor devices

Posted: Saturday 17 December 2016 14:32
by Egregius
Wake it by either a triple click or a long push until led is wite and confirm with short push.
Or maybe force temp change by going outside or something.
If nothing is succesfull you could indeed ex-/include.

Re: Smoke sensor devices

Posted: Sunday 18 December 2016 17:27
by Ernstl
Okay, now they´re all fine.
Thanks a lot.

Re: Smoke sensor devices

Posted: Sunday 18 December 2016 17:39
by Egregius
Wich of the options did the trick?

Re: Smoke sensor devices

Posted: Sunday 18 December 2016 17:49
by Ernstl
Forcing the temp change. I put the sensor outside for an hour.