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Tradfri E14 LED 470m no colortemp adjustment in Domoticz (704.243.12)

Posted: Saturday 28 November 2020 20:03
by TonkaNL
Hi everyone,

I just bought two of these lights.

These are dimmable and temperature controlled lights. Via remote it works, but Domotics sees them as regular dimmable lights with no option of changing the color temp. If I connect them and the remote via Domoticz/Zigate, then te color change buttons on the remote will not work anymore.

Anyone any ideas why? Do I perhaps need to update the firmware of the Zigate controller to be able to use all of the Tradfri lights (and options)? Or does the plugin take care of the Tradfri updates?

Thanks!

Best regards,

Tonka

Re: Tradfri E14 LED 470m no colortemp adjustment in Domoticz (704.243.12)

Posted: Saturday 28 November 2020 20:06
by pipiche

Re: Tradfri E14 LED 470m no colortemp adjustment in Domoticz (704.243.12)

Posted: Saturday 28 November 2020 21:05
by TonkaNL
Hi Pipiche,

Yes, but probably not well enough.. 😊

I’ll read it again. Thanks.

I did however update my Zigate to 3.1d, but this does’t work with my Domoticz and Plugin version. Any thoughts?

Re: Tradfri E14 LED 470m no colortemp adjustment in Domoticz (704.243.12)

Posted: Saturday 28 November 2020 22:38
by pipiche
Di you enable Group ?
Did you then create a group between the remote and the bulb ?
Did you add Zigate to the group created ?
Did you then finaly add the remote to the group ?

Re: Tradfri E14 LED 470m no colortemp adjustment in Domoticz (704.243.12)

Posted: Sunday 29 November 2020 0:36
by TonkaNL
Do you have to add the Zigate first and then the remote as the last one? I added the remote first and then the Zigate. But the Zigate tickbox does not stay on.

Can I remove the remote and then add the Zigate again?

Cheers,

Tonka

Re: Tradfri E14 LED 470m no colortemp adjustment in Domoticz (704.243.12)

Posted: Sunday 29 November 2020 8:58
by TonkaNL
Hi Pipiche,

I'm also posting in this thread. I will stop there :)

The remote in the group with the E27 bulbs is now working correctly. The Zigate tickbox is checked. The remote is reporting to Domoticz. All of the buttons work. I don't know why the Zigate suddenly was available in this group. It took some time apparently.

In the Zigate group config file the EEEE of Zigate is added to both groups.

The remote in the second group still does not report to Domoticz.

Hmm, curious

Re: Tradfri E14 LED 470m no colortemp adjustment in Domoticz (704.243.12)

Posted: Sunday 29 November 2020 10:18
by TonkaNL
And now the color change via the 5 button remote stopped working again.

The input is visible in Domoticz when the buttons on the remote are pushed (click/push left or right) but the lights don't react anymore.

Curious.

Re: Tradfri E14 LED 470m no colortemp adjustment in Domoticz (704.243.12)

Posted: Sunday 29 November 2020 11:36
by pipiche
Can we start from the begining:

1/ what is the plugin branche you are ? stable or beta ?
2/ what is then the version of the plugin ?

4/ is the Led controled via Domoticz ? Dim and Color ?
5/ is the Led Controled via the remote ? On/Off and Dim ?

If all is ok here. It means , the Led and the remote are both connected to the same Zigbee network controled by Zigate

Please do not edit any file, otherwise I don't know what could happen. You have to use the Plugin Web UI for that (which by default is reachable on the port 9440 of your domoticz server).

Re: Tradfri E14 LED 470m no colortemp adjustment in Domoticz (704.243.12)

Posted: Sunday 29 November 2020 18:13
by TonkaNL
Hi Pipiche,

1) I'm not sure if it's stable or beta.
2) Version is 4.7.010
3) Led is controlled by Domoticz. Yes, both dim and color.
4) Led is controlled by remote: On/Off and Dim. For a short while color was also possible. But that stopped working.

Re: Tradfri E14 LED 470m no colortemp adjustment in Domoticz (704.243.12)

Posted: Sunday 29 November 2020 18:41
by TonkaNL
I see a newer version on GIT. Can you tell me how I can update? I know how to install the plugin the first time, but updating is a bit different.

Thanks!

Re: Tradfri E14 LED 470m no colortemp adjustment in Domoticz (704.243.12)

Posted: Sunday 29 November 2020 18:53
by pipiche
The best is :

1/ stop domoticz
2/ go on the plugin folder ( Domoticz-Zigate ) and from there

git pull

3/ restart Domoticz

Re: Tradfri E14 LED 470m no colortemp adjustment in Domoticz (704.243.12)

Posted: Sunday 29 November 2020 20:04
by TonkaNL
I tried this, but it does not work (windows 10)

It says it is not a git depository (or any of the oarent directories)

Re: Tradfri E14 LED 470m no colortemp adjustment in Domoticz (704.243.12)

Posted: Sunday 29 November 2020 20:27
by TonkaNL
Cloned the package in a seperate dir and copied it into Domoticz zigate.

Now the update was succesful and I see version 4.11.011

What I still don’t see is a config file of the 470lm Tradfri bulb. So the full functionality is probably not supported?

Re: Tradfri E14 LED 470m no colortemp adjustment in Domoticz (704.243.12)

Posted: Wednesday 02 December 2020 12:08
by TonkaNL
However, to summarize:

- E14 470lm candle lights: no color temp change possible inside Domoticz
- Regular E27 1000lm bulbs: color temp change possible inside Domoticz, remote works also via Domoticz, but not the color temp.

Does anyone have any suggestions? I also bought a Tradfri hub, but I'd rather have a fully functioning Domoticz.

Re: Tradfri E14 LED 470m no colortemp adjustment in Domoticz (704.243.12)

Posted: Wednesday 02 December 2020 14:13
by pipiche
TonkaNL wrote: ↑Sunday 29 November 2020 20:27 What I still don’t see is a config file of the 470lm Tradfri bulb. So the full functionality is probably not supported?
Not an issue. The plugin is develop in a way that it is able to detect automatically devices based on their capabilities. If it works, it works. No need to get a conf file.

Re: Tradfri E14 LED 470m no colortemp adjustment in Domoticz (704.243.12)

Posted: Wednesday 02 December 2020 14:16
by pipiche
If I summarize

The 2 LEDS are controled by the remote for On/Off and Dim+ and Dim - , correct ?

If so, please cross-check the Group Management :

make sure that both Led are part of the group.
make sure that Zigate is part of the group
finaly make sure that the IKEA Remote is added to that group too .

Make a screenshoot of this interface so we can share the same view

Re: Tradfri E14 LED 470m no colortemp adjustment in Domoticz (704.243.12)

Posted: Saturday 05 December 2020 0:01
by TonkaNL
Hi Pipiche,

After the update to the latest Plugin version, I reconnected all of the lamps and remotes according to your description and everything works!

The candle lamps 470lm is able to change colortemp in Domoticz and through the remote.

The color temp change via the remote is a bit sudden and not gradual as per the original Ikea connection, but I'm not complaining. Thanks!

Re: Tradfri E14 LED 470m no colortemp adjustment in Domoticz (704.243.12)

Posted: Saturday 05 December 2020 0:57
by TonkaNL
Up to the next challenge:

Can you control one group of tradfri lamps in Domoticz, with two Ikea remotes?

Re: Tradfri E14 LED 470m no colortemp adjustment in Domoticz (704.243.12)

Posted: Saturday 05 December 2020 9:08
by pipiche
Consider the limit that zigate can be only on 4 different groups.

Re: Tradfri E14 LED 470m no colortemp adjustment in Domoticz (704.243.12)

Posted: Saturday 05 December 2020 9:39
by TonkaNL
Ah yes. Thanks. But I only have two groups. I have two remotes with which I want to control the same group. Is this possible?