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Electric curtains behaving weird - Forest Shuttle

Posted: Thursday 08 September 2016 16:50
by kevink
Hi,
I have an electric curtain brand/type: Forest Shuttle with a Z-wave module attached to it. If operated manually (by pulling the curtain a little bit), it opens and closes as expected, thus the 'open' and 'closed' positions are known.

Today I started using Domoticz (Hi, new on this forum!) on my Raspberry Pi 2 type B and followed this guide to configure the RaZberry z-wave controller. http://www.vesternet.com/resources/appl ... 9F16JN96L_.
First I included a Danfoss LC13 to control the temperature in my room, which works fine, so I assume the RaZberry is properly configured.

Then I included the Forest Shuttle. Inclusion worked and it shows up in the hardware list (see screenshots), but I have no clue how to configure the switch. I tried many switch types, such as blinds, blinds percentage, dimmer, on/off, push on button, but none seem to work properly.
The curtains sometimes randomly open or close, without pushing the switch buttons. Also the reaction time seems very slow; sometimes something happens almost a minute after switching things; how can I speed this up?
First, I'd like to have a button to fully open/close the curtains and avoid the random opening/closing. Can someone help me with that? Thanks in advance.

Once that's working I'd like to proceed maybe 'inbetween' scenes, where the curtains are not fully closed, but just a little.

Re: Electric curtains behaving weird - Forest Shuttle

Posted: Monday 12 September 2016 10:36
by LouiS22
According to your last screenshot, de device itself is unknown, so there's no config xml - hence you can't configure your device. Are you on the beta channel or the stable one? The beta ozw contains one xml for this manufacturer, but it could be a new one which is not in the ozw github at all.

Re: Electric curtains behaving weird - Forest Shuttle

Posted: Tuesday 27 September 2016 13:59
by kevink
Thanks Louis. I'm sorry for not answering earlier, didn't have time to try again until now.

I was on the stable channel, but updated now to beta Version: 3.5700. I excluded the node and included it again. I get the same message; unknown. I suppose it's a different one than the xml that is already on the beta ozw and thus not supported yet?

Is it possible to make such an xml myself? How do I make this work...

I also contacted the manufacturer. I've been told that they didn't make the Z-wave receiver themselves and thus don't have tech. specs, but that it's based on the receiver in the attached document. I hope this helps?
ABMHZ_v1plus1_Advanced_User_Manual.pdf
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Re: Electric curtains behaving weird - Forest Shuttle

Posted: Tuesday 27 September 2016 17:12
by Domosapiens
Kevink,

Use this link as guidance for a How-to
http://www.domoticz.com/forum/viewtopic ... anufact%2A

In domoticz/Config/electronicsolutions/
there is a file: dbmz.xml
You could try to use that one, it seems to be generic.

How-to:
In domoticz/Config/
there is a file: manufacturer_specific.xml
Search for electronicsolutions and Add:

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<Product type="4647" id="0002" name="DBMZ Motor Control" config="electronicsolutions/dbmz.xml"/>
Stop Z-Wave
Remove the node 033 related section from your zwcfg_0xaaaaaaa.xml
Restart Z-Wave
Check you log file and see if a Configuration screen comes for the node.

Hope this helps
Domosapiens

Re: Electric curtains behaving weird - Forest Shuttle

Posted: Tuesday 27 September 2016 19:30
by ceedebee
I'm using the forest curtain with the build in zwave module. This one also has no xml configuration file but is working correctly. So the file is not always necessary.

Re: Electric curtains behaving weird - Forest Shuttle

Posted: Tuesday 27 September 2016 19:59
by Domosapiens
has no xml configuration file but is working correctly
Just curious..
And are you able to configure:
- Unit calibration state
- Unit motor direction state
- Unit tilt feature state
In the Nodes configuration tab?

Re: Electric curtains behaving weird - Forest Shuttle

Posted: Thursday 29 September 2016 19:04
by kevink
@Domosapiens

thank you for the detailed explanation. I'm new to Domoticz, so not really sure about the things I'm doing.

I didn't really understand the link you sent, but I managed to find the dbmz.xml file. I also added that product line to manufacturer_specific.xml.
I don't know how to stop and restart z-wave. I think I succesfully removed the 033 related section. Enclosed the file in case you want to check. Then I rebooted the raspberry pi. I hope this has the same effect as restarting z-wave.
Then I tried to include the node, and this time it showed:
"Included node:3
DBMZ Motor Control"
which, I think, is the desired result :D

Now under hardware, I think it's idx 3? I pressed the green button to "add light/switch device"

In the Switches tab, my new switch appeared. I expected my curtains to close after pressing it, but that didn't happen. I included what appeared in my log.
What does this timeout notification mean?

and @ceedebee
I think your newer version of the Forest Shuttle uses a different Z-wave device. My Z-wave unit is a seperate little box, connected with a utp-cable.

LOG:

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2016-09-29 18:53:51.339 New sensors allowed for 5 minutes...
2016-09-29 18:53:51.341 OpenZWave: Node Include command initiated...
2016-09-29 18:54:06.066 OpenZWave: New Node added. HomeID: 4029292394, NodeID: 3 (0x03)
2016-09-29 18:54:06.086 OpenZWave: Value_Added: Node: 3 (0x03), CommandClass: SWITCH MULTILEVEL, Label: Level, Instance: 1
2016-09-29 18:54:06.087 (RaZberry) Light/Switch (Level)
2016-09-29 18:54:06.102 OpenZWave: Value_Added: Node: 3 (0x03), CommandClass: SWITCH MULTILEVEL, Label: Bright, Instance: 1
2016-09-29 18:54:06.103 OpenZWave: Value_Added: Node: 3 (0x03), CommandClass: SWITCH MULTILEVEL, Label: Dim, Instance: 1
2016-09-29 18:54:14.266 (RaZberry) Thermostat (Heating 1)
2016-09-29 18:54:16.340 OpenZWave: Received timeout notification from HomeID: 4029292394, NodeID: 3 (0x03)
2016-09-29 18:54:16.376 (RaZberry) Thermostat (Heating 1)
2016-09-29 18:54:16.589 OpenZWave: NodeID: 2 (0x02), Thermostat Clock: Monday 23:00
2016-09-29 18:54:16.589 (RaZberry) General/Thermostat Clock (Thermostat Clock)
2016-09-29 18:54:16.598 OpenZWave: All Nodes queried
2016-09-29 18:58:02.399 User: Admin initiated a switch command
2016-09-29 18:58:02.400 OpenZWave: Domoticz has send a Switch command!, Level: 255, NodeID: 3 (0x03)
2016-09-29 18:58:02.402 (RaZberry) Light/Switch (Gordijn)
2016-09-29 18:58:12.429 OpenZWave: Received timeout notification from HomeID: 4029292394, NodeID: 3 (0x03)
2016-09-29 18:58:22.453 OpenZWave: Received timeout notification from HomeID: 4029292394, NodeID: 3 (0x03)
2016-09-29 18:58:32.458 OpenZWave: Received timeout notification from HomeID: 4029292394, NodeID: 3 (0x03)
2016-09-29 18:58:42.462 OpenZWave: Received timeout notification from HomeID: 4029292394, NodeID: 3 (0x03)
2016-09-29 18:58:52.466 OpenZWave: Received timeout notification from HomeID: 4029292394, NodeID: 3 (0x03)
2016-09-29 18:59:02.470 OpenZWave: Received timeout notification from HomeID: 4029292394, NodeID: 3 (0x03)
2016-09-29 18:59:07.224 (RaZberry) Thermostat (Heating 1)
2016-09-29 18:59:12.473 OpenZWave: Received timeout notification from HomeID: 4029292394, NodeID: 3 (0x03)
2016-09-29 18:59:22.500 OpenZWave: Received timeout notification from HomeID: 4029292394, NodeID: 3 (0x03)
2016-09-29 18:59:32.504 OpenZWave: Received timeout notification from HomeID: 4029292394, NodeID: 3 (0x03)
2016-09-29 18:59:42.508 OpenZWave: Received timeout notification from HomeID: 4029292394, NodeID: 3 (0x03)
2016-09-29 18:59:52.512 OpenZWave: Received timeout notification from HomeID: 4029292394, NodeID: 3 (0x03)
2016-09-29 19:00:02.516 OpenZWave: Received timeout notification from HomeID: 4029292394, NodeID: 3 (0x03)
zwcfg_0xf02a1f6a.xml (before including the node):

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<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8" ?>
<Driver xmlns="http://code.google.com/p/open-zwave/" version="3" home_id="0xf02a1f6a" node_id="1" api_capabilities="0" controller_capabilities="40" poll_interval="60000" poll_interval_between="false">
    <Node id="1" name="" location="" basic="2" generic="2" specific="1" type="Static PC Controller" listening="true" frequentListening="false" beaming="true" routing="false" max_baud_rate="40000" version="4" query_stage="Complete">
        <Manufacturer id="147" name="Z-Wave.Me">
            <Product type="400" id="1" name="RaZberry Controller ZWave+" />
        </Manufacturer>
        <CommandClasses>
            <CommandClass id="32" name="COMMAND_CLASS_BASIC" version="1" after_mark="true">
                <Instance index="1" />
                <Value type="byte" genre="basic" instance="1" index="0" label="Basic" units="" read_only="false" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="0" min="0" max="255" value="0" />
            </CommandClass>
        </CommandClasses>
    </Node>
    <Node id="2" name="" location="" basic="4" generic="8" specific="4" type="Setpoint Thermostat" listening="false" frequentListening="false" beaming="true" routing="true" max_baud_rate="40000" version="4" query_stage="Complete">
        <Manufacturer id="2" name="Danfoss">
            <Product type="5" id="4" name="Z Thermostat 014G0013" />
        </Manufacturer>
        <CommandClasses>
            <CommandClass id="67" name="COMMAND_CLASS_THERMOSTAT_SETPOINT" version="1" request_flags="4" override_precision="2" innif="true" base="0">
                <Instance index="1" />
                <Value type="decimal" genre="user" instance="1" index="1" label="Heating 1" units="C" read_only="false" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="0" min="0" max="0" value="4.00" />
            </CommandClass>
            <CommandClass id="70" name="COMMAND_CLASS_CLIMATE_CONTROL_SCHEDULE" version="1" request_flags="4" innif="true" change_counter="0">
                <Instance index="1" />
                <Value type="schedule" genre="user" instance="1" index="1" label="Monday" units="" read_only="false" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="0" min="0" max="0" />
                <Value type="schedule" genre="user" instance="1" index="2" label="Tuesday" units="" read_only="false" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="0" min="0" max="0" />
                <Value type="schedule" genre="user" instance="1" index="3" label="Wednesday" units="" read_only="false" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="0" min="0" max="0" />
                <Value type="schedule" genre="user" instance="1" index="4" label="Thursday" units="" read_only="false" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="0" min="0" max="0" />
                <Value type="schedule" genre="user" instance="1" index="5" label="Friday" units="" read_only="false" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="0" min="0" max="0" />
                <Value type="schedule" genre="user" instance="1" index="6" label="Saturday" units="" read_only="false" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="0" min="0" max="0" />
                <Value type="schedule" genre="user" instance="1" index="7" label="Sunday" units="" read_only="false" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="0" min="0" max="0" />
                <Value type="list" genre="user" instance="1" index="8" label="Override State" units="" read_only="false" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="0" min="0" max="0" vindex="0" size="1">
                    <Item label="None" value="0" />
                    <Item label="Temporary" value="1" />
                    <Item label="Permanent" value="2" />
                </Value>
                <Value type="byte" genre="user" instance="1" index="9" label="Override Setback" units="" read_only="false" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="0" min="0" max="255" value="127" />
            </CommandClass>
            <CommandClass id="114" name="COMMAND_CLASS_MANUFACTURER_SPECIFIC" version="1" request_flags="4" innif="true">
                <Instance index="1" />
            </CommandClass>
            <CommandClass id="117" name="COMMAND_CLASS_PROTECTION" version="1" request_flags="4" innif="true">
                <Instance index="1" />
                <Value type="list" genre="system" instance="1" index="0" label="Protection" units="" read_only="false" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="0" min="0" max="0" vindex="0" size="1">
                    <Item label="Unprotected" value="0" />
                    <Item label="Protection by Sequence" value="1" />
                    <Item label="No Operation Possible" value="2" />
                </Value>
            </CommandClass>
            <CommandClass id="128" name="COMMAND_CLASS_BATTERY" version="1" request_flags="4" innif="true">
                <Instance index="1" />
                <Value type="byte" genre="user" instance="1" index="0" label="Battery Level" units="%" read_only="true" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="0" min="0" max="255" value="70" />
            </CommandClass>
            <CommandClass id="129" name="COMMAND_CLASS_CLOCK" version="1" request_flags="4" innif="true">
                <Instance index="1" />
                <Value type="list" genre="user" instance="1" index="0" label="Day" units="" read_only="false" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="0" min="0" max="0" vindex="0" size="1">
                    <Item label="Monday" value="1" />
                    <Item label="Tuesday" value="2" />
                    <Item label="Wednesday" value="3" />
                    <Item label="Thursday" value="4" />
                    <Item label="Friday" value="5" />
                    <Item label="Saturday" value="6" />
                    <Item label="Sunday" value="7" />
                </Value>
                <Value type="byte" genre="user" instance="1" index="1" label="Hour" units="" read_only="false" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="0" min="0" max="255" value="0" />
                <Value type="byte" genre="user" instance="1" index="2" label="Minute" units="" read_only="false" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="0" min="0" max="255" value="57" />
            </CommandClass>
            <CommandClass id="132" name="COMMAND_CLASS_WAKE_UP" version="2" innif="true">
                <Instance index="1" />
                <Value type="int" genre="system" instance="1" index="0" label="Wake-up Interval" units="Seconds" read_only="false" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="0" min="-2147483648" max="2147483647" value="300" />
                <Value type="int" genre="system" instance="1" index="1" label="Minimum Wake-up Interval" units="Seconds" read_only="true" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="0" min="-2147483648" max="2147483647" value="60" />
                <Value type="int" genre="system" instance="1" index="2" label="Maximum Wake-up Interval" units="Seconds" read_only="true" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="0" min="-2147483648" max="2147483647" value="1800" />
                <Value type="int" genre="system" instance="1" index="3" label="Default Wake-up Interval" units="Seconds" read_only="true" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="0" min="-2147483648" max="2147483647" value="300" />
                <Value type="int" genre="system" instance="1" index="4" label="Wake-up Interval Step" units="Seconds" read_only="true" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="0" min="-2147483648" max="2147483647" value="60" />
            </CommandClass>
            <CommandClass id="134" name="COMMAND_CLASS_VERSION" version="1" request_flags="4" innif="true">
                <Instance index="1" />
                <Value type="string" genre="system" instance="1" index="0" label="Library Version" units="" read_only="true" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="0" min="0" max="0" value="6" />
                <Value type="string" genre="system" instance="1" index="1" label="Protocol Version" units="" read_only="true" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="0" min="0" max="0" value="3.67" />
                <Value type="string" genre="system" instance="1" index="2" label="Application Version" units="" read_only="true" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="0" min="0" max="0" value="1.01" />
            </CommandClass>
            <CommandClass id="143" name="COMMAND_CLASS_MULTI_CMD" version="1" request_flags="4" innif="true">
                <Instance index="1" />
            </CommandClass>
        </CommandClasses>
    </Node>
</Driver>

Re: Electric curtains behaving weird - Forest Shuttle

Posted: Thursday 29 September 2016 19:12
by kevink
Update: It actually started moving after switching a few more times! But the response is slow, my log is still filled with:
OpenZWave: Received timeout notification from HomeID: 4029292394, NodeID: 3 (0x03)
And the behaviour is kind of unpredictable; currently the curtains just randomly open or close or open, then close again a few minutes after switching.

FYI: the raspberry pi with RaZberry module and curtains are in the same room - about 5m distance. Right next to the curtains is a Danfoss Z-wave thermostat, so I don't think the range is an issue.

Any ideas on how to improve?

Re: Electric curtains behaving weird - Forest Shuttle

Posted: Thursday 29 September 2016 21:10
by Domosapiens
The unit could be in the calibration state ....

Go to the Nodes configuration tab
Just curious..
And are you able to configure:
- Unit calibration state
- Unit motor direction state
- Unit tilt feature state
In the Nodes configuration tab?
Make a snapshot

Re: Electric curtains behaving weird - Forest Shuttle

Posted: Friday 30 September 2016 18:23
by kevink
When I tried the switch today, I got the following error:
Error sending switch command, check device/hardware !
Also in the nodes configuration tab the status was"!" (see screenshot).
Screen-Shot-2016-09-30-at-18.08.49.jpg
Screen-Shot-2016-09-30-at-18.08.49.jpg (88.67 KiB) Viewed 1970 times
Available options in the dropdown menu's:
1. Calibration: Normal, Calibration or Factory default
2. Motor Direction: Normal or Reversed
3. Tilt feature: No or Yes

In log, under the Status tab:

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2016-09-29 20:01:24.677 OpenZWave: Received timeout notification from HomeID: 4029292394, NodeID: 3 (0x03)
2016-09-29 20:01:34.681 OpenZWave: Received timeout notification from HomeID: 4029292394, NodeID: 3 (0x03)
2016-09-29 20:01:44.685 OpenZWave: Received timeout notification from HomeID: 4029292394, NodeID: 3 (0x03)
2016-09-29 20:01:44.866 OpenZWave: Received Node Dead notification from HomeID: 4029292394, NodeID: 3 (0x03)
2016-09-29 20:01:54.689 OpenZWave: Received timeout notification from HomeID: 4029292394, NodeID: 3 (0x03)
2016-09-30 00:00:02.239 EventSystem: reset all events...
2016-09-30 17:32:06.144 User: Admin initiated a switch command
2016-09-30 17:32:33.222 User: Admin initiated a switch command
2016-09-30 18:07:39.865 User: Admin initiated a switch command
So uhm. It died...

After restarting domoticz, it's alive again (status: green checkmark) and I can press the switch. But it's still not really responsive; it takes over a minute before the curtains finally start moving...

Re: Electric curtains behaving weird - Forest Shuttle

Posted: Friday 30 September 2016 20:37
by Domosapiens
Ok. The configuration options look normal.
Did you execute the calibration cycle?

Then you post ...
zwcfg_0xf02a1f6a.xml (before including the node):
Not so usefull :lol:

More useful is a post where node 003 is shown
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