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Fibaro FGSD-002 Smoke detector

Posted: Tuesday 05 April 2016 18:00
by d3rax
I successfully added 2 fibaro smoke detectors.

Each smoke detector creates 8 devices:
-General
-Smoke
-Heat light/switch
-Alarm level
-Alarm type
-Unkown
-Power management
-System
-Temperature

I would like to verify how to use these devices:

-General: no idea?

-Smoke: I guess this 'switch' turns on after smoke is detected? So this can be used for activiting notifications, lights etc.

-Heat: I guess this 'switch' turns on after heat is detected? So this can be used for activiting notifications, lights etc.

-Alarm level: no idea?

-Alarm type: no idea?

-Unknown: no idea?

-Power management: no idea?

-System: no idea?

-Temperature: reports ambient temperature.

Hope you guys can give some additional clarification!

I also would like to know if it possible to test if the smoke detectors are linked. So that when 1 detector triggers the other also triggers. I know how to test them individually (long press button), but then only that dector triggers?

Re: Fibaro FGSD-002 Smoke detector

Posted: Wednesday 06 April 2016 21:42
by franzelare
tried them.. but shipped them back since the website first stated that they could handle external power as well as battery... but turned out to be battery only... so will replace them by google nest protect later this year.

Re: Fibaro FGSD-002 Smoke detector

Posted: Thursday 28 April 2016 11:20
by RichardBokker
i have the same questions as you.

I supposed there should be a value with the actual "smoke level", something like the temperature.

The Unknown is a temperature reading overhere. I suppose your uknown is a "Burglar" switch, i am missing that one.

i got:

- Temperature. Type Temp.
- General. Type Lighting 2. Unkown function?
- System. Type Lighting 2, with certain level i.e. 255%. Unkown function?
- Management. Type Lighting 2. Unkown function?
- Burglar. Type Lighting 2. I think "on" when someone tries to open the sensor.
- Heat. Type Lighting 2. I think "on" when temp notification limit reached
- Smoke. Type Lighting 2. I think "on" when smoke notification limit reached
- Sensor. Type Lighting 2. Unkown function?
- Alarm Level. Type Lighting 2. Unkown function?
- Alarm Type. Type Lighting 2. Unkown function?

Re: Fibaro FGSD-002 Smoke detector

Posted: Thursday 28 April 2016 11:25
by Egregius
I just use temperature and smoke. The rest: I just let them sit in the table, don't care about them.
203 of my 308 devices are not used.

Re: Fibaro FGSD-002 Smoke detector

Posted: Thursday 28 April 2016 11:33
by RichardBokker
i known, we can ignore them.

But i believed there should be a actual "smoke level", like the temperature. A variable value depending on the actual environment. To check the smoke history via a graphic view?

Re: Fibaro FGSD-002 Smoke detector

Posted: Thursday 28 April 2016 12:02
by trixwood
Did anyone try to expose the device to an hotter temperature, or blow smoke into it (ear plugs do not do this the middle of the night)
You probably see the Alarm values change. Yoy should also be sure that the smoke detector also talks to other z-wave devices without the controller in your pi, nas or pc... (groups i think it's called)... Ow, and do not forget to set the devices parameters in the openzwave hardware list, it gives more reporting options.

And that you can not use a normal power supply... well you can... but they do not recommended it.

viewtopic.php?t=4302

I am also wondering about the General, and Sensor seen it by many zwave devices no idea what is does.

Re: Fibaro FGSD-002 Smoke detector

Posted: Thursday 28 April 2016 12:32
by Egregius
Yes, it's the 'smoke' switch that reacts on smoke ;)

Re: Fibaro FGSD-002 Smoke detector

Posted: Thursday 28 April 2016 16:20
by trixwood
Is it possible that two Smoke detectors devices can be linked such that the first one went off the second also goes off... i think this is possible, not sure. I mean it would be stupid if one sensor goes off and the other in the locate 10 meters further where you sleep in your bedroom does not... i really want to be awake when the kitchen on fire... (watch it burn... probably :-/ :-)

And if so is it possible to use that alarm when other alarm sensors like when door sensors goes off? (So you do not have to buy a additional loud alarm device)

Any thoughts?

Re: Fibaro FGSD-002 Smoke detector

Posted: Friday 29 April 2016 11:31
by Kroontje
trixwood wrote:Is it possible that two Smoke detectors devices can be linked such that the first one went off the second also goes off... i think this is possible, not sure. I mean it would be stupid if one sensor goes off and the other in the locate 10 meters further where you sleep in your bedroom does not... i really want to be awake when the kitchen on fire... (watch it burn... probably :-/ :-)

And if so is it possible to use that alarm when other alarm sensors like when door sensors goes off? (So you do not have to buy a additional loud alarm device)

Any thoughts?
Nope, not possible.. :(

Re: Fibaro FGSD-002 Smoke detector

Posted: Tuesday 31 May 2016 21:57
by johnwulp
Did you found the meaning of the unknown functions? Got also a detector today, but also couldn't find anything....
RichardBokker wrote:i have the same questions as you.

I supposed there should be a value with the actual "smoke level", something like the temperature.

The Unknown is a temperature reading overhere. I suppose your uknown is a "Burglar" switch, i am missing that one.

i got:

- Temperature. Type Temp.
- General. Type Lighting 2. Unkown function?
- System. Type Lighting 2, with certain level i.e. 255%. Unkown function?
- Management. Type Lighting 2. Unkown function?
- Burglar. Type Lighting 2. I think "on" when someone tries to open the sensor.
- Heat. Type Lighting 2. I think "on" when temp notification limit reached
- Smoke. Type Lighting 2. I think "on" when smoke notification limit reached
- Sensor. Type Lighting 2. Unkown function?
- Alarm Level. Type Lighting 2. Unkown function?
- Alarm Type. Type Lighting 2. Unkown function?

Re: Fibaro FGSD-002 Smoke detector

Posted: Tuesday 12 July 2016 19:08
by Dynamic
Did anyone found out what the meaning of the switches are? I received my 2 Fibaro smoke-detectors but am not able to find out what sensor is my real smoke detector.

Re: Fibaro FGSD-002 Smoke detector

Posted: Tuesday 12 July 2016 19:21
by trixwood
You should definitely look at: http://manuals.fibaro.com/smoke-sensor/

In general I found (before I found above link):

http://www.benext.eu/tutorials/tutorial ... producten/

Code: Select all

Alarm type	Param
Smoke	256
CO	512
CO2	768
Heat	1024
Water	1280
Access Control	1536
Burglar	1792
https://github.com/openhab/openhab/wiki/Z-Wave-Binding

Code: Select all

Alarm Type
GENERAL(0, "General")
SMOKE(1, "Smoke")
CARBON_MONOXIDE(2, "Carbon Monoxide")
CARBON_DIOXIDE(3, "Carbon Dioxide")
HEAT(4, "Heat")
FLOOD(5, "Flood")
Someone should implement that as return value's :-)