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Birdi Smoke/CO/Air Quality Smart Detector

Posted: Sunday 20 March 2016 2:38
by inteus
Was wondering if anyone has seen the upcoming Birdi smoke/CO alarm. Not sure what protocols they are going to support yet, but they are taking suggestions.

http://getbirdi.com/

Re: Birdi Smoke/CO/Air Quality Smart Detector

Posted: Monday 19 December 2016 15:51
by An3surk
Small Kick, I really love the features on this device. It would be handy if Domoticz was able to read the sensors. Anyone with any experience?

Re: Birdi Smoke/CO/Air Quality Smart Detector

Posted: Monday 19 December 2016 16:37
by trixwood
Ok, lets start why this is a bad idea...
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So is it CO2 or CO?

Really confusing, So lets assume the main page is right and its CO, and the "reserve now" popup is not.

Then if it's only co, smoke and air quality, what sensors do they use (I mean, like a 2 euro MQ sensor or the better ones?
It's probably based on the cheap ones. Can not find it.

There is no api, they "take suggestions", why do they need suggestions to build in an rest api or a subscription base model for http push?

Because....

All the data goes through their bank-level secure...(their words not mine) cloud thingy.

I mean why? Why do I want to tell some 3rd party if I am cooking (like in the example)... let the whole world know if you are cooking.

This thing is an overpriced smoke sensor, with some cloud software which lock you in...

* Quality of the sensors (which one do they use)
* No Local API (rest, http push)
* No API at all!
* Cloud based (and you probably have to go through that if there ever will be a public api :cry: :cry: :cry:)
* Some vague 5$ security option...
* If the company who sells these stops, no cloud, no sensor readings!!!

So for me for 120 euro is NO deal, why?

vThings - CO2 Monitor

http://shop.vair-monitor.com/index.php? ... uct_id=133

* Quality sensors!! (CO2, dust)
* Local accessible
* No cloud if you do not want to

And it still cheaper. And that is CO2 instead of CO.

Re: Birdi Smoke/CO/Air Quality Smart Detector

Posted: Friday 06 January 2017 17:08
by mphilipp
Nice! That vThings sensor is exactly what I needed!
I was planning on building something like it myself with an Arduino and some sensors, but this seems as complete as it can get.

I wanted to make environmental monitors for my bedroom and living room (integrated kitchen) and one outside for polution monitoring as I live in along a busy street. Not sure if this sensor is also good for monitoring outside air quality. You need some more sensors for that. But these are great for inside.

Re: Birdi Smoke/CO/Air Quality Smart Detector

Posted: Friday 06 January 2017 20:47
by vlast3k
I am the maker behind this device :)
in fact currently there is an ongoing promotion. if you would like to buy, you may make use of it
http://domoticz.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=14481

as for monitoring outside, the you can equip a device with a Dust sensor - to monitor outside particulate matter. Especially in the winter in some cities this is a real problem.
The bigger problem is that this dust enters your home, when you open the window to ventilate (e.g. because of CO2), so then it is good to have some filter to filter it out.
In general you can also monitor NO2, CO and SO2, at least i've seen them being monitored, e.g. here
http://aqicn.org/city/bulgaria/sofia/pavlovo/

but as of now i do not have sensors for those. (also haven't seen them on this site to rise too much, and especially this station is on a quite busy street). But PM2.5 and PM10 does rise, but not that much due to the cars, rather due to the fact that a lot of people use wood and coal for heating here, and combined with some bad weather conditions - some days we have dust levels above 400 um/m3 :(