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Re: Zwave and groups -> how does it work?
Posted: Thursday 23 April 2015 20:42
by leby
tonygair wrote: My devices have no groups! I need to associate them.
I'm not familiar with your hardware, do you have any dimmer, switch or sensor? Sirens etc does not report only receive so its only some hardware that have groups.
You have used the Aeon stick to include your nodes? Please post a screenshot of your network and groups similar to this one:

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Re: Zwave and groups -> how does it work?
Posted: Friday 24 April 2015 16:58
by tonygair
So what do you think could be the reason for the drop outs. I have tried extra relays, no relays (its surprising actually how far a Aeon USBSTICK will throw a signal and receive it) . I have tried short 20-120 and long 720 poll intervals on my controller. Its not batterys.
Re: Zwave and groups -> how does it work?
Posted: Friday 24 April 2015 17:15
by tonygair
Heres the screen shot of my groups and network screen

- screenshot of groups and networks
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Re: Zwave and groups -> how does it work?
Posted: Friday 24 April 2015 19:36
by leby
Strange, non of your nodes connects to anyone else then the controller. What kind of hardware is it?
Are they so thermostats?
Re: Zwave and groups -> how does it work?
Posted: Saturday 25 April 2015 7:47
by sidepipe
My guess, from the screenshot, is that they're TRVs
In which case it's perfectly normal that they don't have associations. They will just report to the controller at every "wake up interval."
Re: Zwave and groups -> how does it work?
Posted: Saturday 25 April 2015 8:59
by leby
And for someone ignorant, what's a trv?
Re: Zwave and groups -> how does it work?
Posted: Saturday 25 April 2015 9:05
by sidepipe
Thermostatic Radiator Valve - saves a lot of typing

Re: Zwave and groups -> how does it work?
Posted: Saturday 25 April 2015 17:38
by leby
Ok, well then it's more understandable, tony needs to by some switches!
Re: Zwave and groups -> how does it work?
Posted: Monday 27 April 2015 23:32
by G3rard
I am just starting with Z-Wave, but I think my Group is not working allright because none of the nodes is connected to the controller in the picture.
See screenshot below for the nodes I'm using and the network information.
The nodes are working, but any suggestions if I need to make any changes to the groups?

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Re: Zwave and groups -> how does it work?
Posted: Tuesday 28 April 2015 7:05
by tlpeter
I had this issue and i gave the controller a hard reset and included all nodes again (you will need to do that as a hard reset clears it all)
But you could also have a range issue.
Re: Zwave and groups -> how does it work?
Posted: Wednesday 29 April 2015 9:39
by G3rard
tlpeter wrote:I had this issue and i gave the controller a hard reset and included all nodes again (you will need to do that as a hard reset clears it all)
But you could also have a range issue.
I will give that a try. I don't think it is a range issue, because the frontdoor sensor is within 2 meters of the controller.
Re: Zwave and groups -> how does it work?
Posted: Wednesday 29 April 2015 11:04
by tonygair
My hardware attached are STELLA Z trvs , raspberry pi and aeon 2 stick, and a couple of danfoss LC13 TRV's. The stella z's have 3 thermostats, a level which appears as a light dimmer switch, and a temperature sensor device. I have set the controller Poll interval to 40 seconds, stella z and danfoss poll interval is 720 seconds. polling is enabled on all stella z's and danfoss valves.
Frequently the valves seem to get quite excited and keep actuating much more than the wakeup interval as if they are trying to push the valve but not succeeding, which I don't think is a good use of battery. And my batteries don't seem to last six months never mind 2 years
Re: Zwave and groups -> how does it work?
Posted: Saturday 09 May 2015 23:29
by G3rard
G3rard wrote:tlpeter wrote:I had this issue and i gave the controller a hard reset and included all nodes again (you will need to do that as a hard reset clears it all)
But you could also have a range issue.
I will give that a try. I don't think it is a range issue, because the frontdoor sensor is within 2 meters of the controller.
I gave the controller a hard reset and included the nodes again and now all is working allright.

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Re: Zwave and groups -> how does it work?
Posted: Sunday 04 September 2016 14:23
by cr1cr1
Hi,
Do you know the meaning of the line width in the zwave network graph? I remarked that most of the newer devices have thin lines at their ends while older devices have all bold lines. I mean by "newer" that they are a few days old and have already communicated successfully in the network of course.
Thanks,
Re: Zwave and groups -> how does it work?
Posted: Sunday 04 September 2016 15:35
by stuiow
I always though the thinner lines were battery operated devices so they don't repeat signals. Whether that is correct or not i don't know.
Re: Zwave and groups -> how does it work?
Posted: Sunday 04 September 2016 15:55
by cr1cr1
Hi Stuviow,
No, it is not the case in my network :

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As you can see, the door sensors (9,10,11) have bold lines and operates on battery, and are sleeping devices.
The two last devices I added are roller shutters (16 & 17) and display thin lines (the "Bureau" one has been installed more than two weeks ago and still display thin lines at their ends) :

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I would like to understand the meaning of those thin lines !
Re: Zwave and groups -> how does it work?
Posted: Sunday 02 October 2016 20:29
by cr1cr1
No answer on my previous question? Well, I have another one: why does it show two devices without interconnexions though they work perfectly fine in my network ?

Devices 21, 22 & 23 have been included in one hour time-frame. 21 showed interconnexions immediately, nothing for 22 & 23 that are exacly the same.

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Re: Zwave and groups -> how does it work?
Posted: Sunday 02 October 2016 23:48
by cr1cr1
Well, healing the network seemed to reorganize its view:

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