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Re: P1 watermeter device missing

Posted: Saturday 29 October 2022 14:59
by FireWizard
Hello @gizmocuz,

I installed your latest beta (14585). The kWh and Gas meter is updated, as expected
However every second I receive the following line in the Debug Status information.

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2022-10-29 14:54:17.632 Status: Smart KwH and Gas Meter: Found gas meter on M-Bus channel 1
This looks a little bit overkill, every second, and I do not remember, I saw it before.

Regards

Re: P1 watermeter device missing

Posted: Sunday 30 October 2022 12:08
by FireWizard
Hello @gizmocuz,

Issue solved. Installed 14589.

Thanks

Re: P1 watermeter device missing

Posted: Wednesday 24 September 2025 11:47
by Hansbit
Today a digital water meter (In Dutch: Slimme Watermeter) was installed by the water company Brabant Water. It replaces my analog meter, which I read with a pulse counter for Domoticz. The new digital meter has no moving or countable parts, and I see no connections or plugs:


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But online documentation shows that the symbol (3) in the display indicates that the water meter is connected to the electricity meter:


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So that indicates it is connected to the P1. Searching this forum I found this thread and I read that it possible by a patch. The device isn't appearing in de Domiticz' device list, as my gas meter does. Is this patch already in version 2025.1? Or should I use some scripting myself?

Regards, Hans

Re: P1 watermeter device missing

Posted: Wednesday 24 September 2025 13:32
by cvvt
Hi Hans,

the digital water meter should be added automatically in the device list.

See
viewtopic.php?t=43032

This is how mine appears in the device list :
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Try restarting the domoticz server.

Re: P1 watermeter device missing

Posted: Wednesday 24 September 2025 16:52
by Hansbit
Thank you. I expected to appear in the device list, but it isn't.

I checked the serial output on P1, there is only one M-bus (0-1), that's my gas meter. So no watermeter data in the telegram.

So, probably:
- I have to wait a day to give time to synchronize
- Meter can be not connected correctly to the electricity meter
- Meter uses other communication way?

Re: P1 watermeter device missing

Posted: Wednesday 24 September 2025 20:05
by waltervl
Did you restart Domoticz or the Domoticz P1 hardware gateway?

Re: P1 watermeter device missing

Posted: Wednesday 24 September 2025 21:56
by Hansbit
waltervl wrote: Wednesday 24 September 2025 20:05 Did you restart Domoticz or the Domoticz P1 hardware gateway?
Yes I did. But there is no data from the water meter in the serial P1 telegram sent from the electricity meter to domoticz. So problem is before Domoticz. Maybe the water meter sends only once a day it's data. Or the electricity meter has to be activated by the company to accept water meter data.

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/CTA5ZIV-METER

1-3:0.2.8(50)
0-0:1.0.0(25097777737S)
0-0:96.1.1(453030030373230303236831)
1-0:1.8.1(009583.802*kWh)
1-0:1.8.2(007811.385*kWh)
1-0:2.8.1(000427.360*kWh)
1-0:2.8.2(000970.230*kWh)
0-0:96.14.0(0001)
1-0:1.7.0(00.699*kW)
1-0:2.7.0(00.000*kW)
0-0:96.7.21(00048)
0-0:96.7.9(00054)
1-0:99.97.0(10)(0-0:96.7.19)(230127192103W)(0001822087*s)(230106171255W)(0016352007*s)(230106171255W)(0016352006*s)(230106171254W)(0016352006*s)(221212204121W)(0014204513*s)(221212204121W)(0014204513*s)(221212204121W)(0014204512*s)(221118000952W)(0012057023*s)(221118000951W)(0012057023*s)(221118000951W)(0012057023*s)
1-0:32.32.0(00014)
1-0:52.32.0(00010)
1-0:72.32.0(00007)
1-0:32.36.0(00022)
1-0:52.36.0(00022)
1-0:72.36.0(00023)
0-0:96.13.0()
1-0:32.7.0(226.0*V)
1-0:52.7.0(230.0*V)
1-0:72.7.0(230.0*V)
1-0:31.7.0(000*A)
1-0:51.7.0(002*A)
1-0:71.7.0(001*A)
1-0:21.7.0(00.054*kW)
1-0:41.7.0(00.459*kW)
1-0:61.7.0(00.162*kW)
1-0:22.7.0(00.000*kW)
1-0:42.7.0(00.000*kW)
1-0:62.7.0(00.000*kW)
0-1:24.1.0(003)
0-1:96.1.0(4730303733303034313139323031383231)
0-1:24.2.1(250924214500S)(04752.424*m3)
!BC04

Re: P1 watermeter device missing

Posted: Thursday 25 September 2025 8:17
by waltervl
If today still no water meter data in the P1 message perhaps contact the electricity infrastructure company (eg Enexis) to activate the connection with the water meter.

Re: P1 watermeter device missing

Posted: Tuesday 13 January 2026 17:06
by waltervl
Hansbit wrote: Wednesday 24 September 2025 11:47 Today a digital water meter (In Dutch: Slimme Watermeter) was installed by the water company Brabant Water. It replaces my analog meter, which I read with a pulse counter for Domoticz. The new digital meter has no moving or countable parts, and I see no connections or plugs:

But online documentation shows that the symbol (3) in the display indicates that the water meter is connected to the electricity meter:


So that indicates it is connected to the P1. Searching this forum I found this thread and I read that it possible by a patch. The device isn't appearing in de Domiticz' device list, as my gas meter does. Is this patch already in version 2025.1? Or should I use some scripting myself?

Regards, Hans
It seems this type of meter of BrabantWater is not connected with the P1 smart meter.
You need to have a different way of reading the meter.
Do you know if it has an NFC chip that you can read? You can test this with your phone. Then you could read it with an ESPHome+NFC device?
There is not a lot of info on these SAGECOM watermeters.

See also this discussion: viewtopic.php?t=44218

Re: P1 watermeter device missing

Posted: Monday 14 September 2026 19:51
by Hansbit
Thanks, a recap now...

I read the other discussion and saw that more Brabantwater (BW) costumers have the same problem after their 'smart water meter' was installed. On my new meter there is no connection with P1 grid meter (no water value there), no nfc, no IR no moving parts, nothing.

With my old analogue meter with pulse counter I (for a few years ) able to read our water consumption to Domoticz. Reason for this was that I wanted to know where the high consumption came from. I sent daily detailed reports to our family app. This worked great. Then the BW 'smart' meter was installed...

After sending a mail to BW, I was phoned by a technician from BW. The BW new meter sends with large intervals the readings to BW via mobile phone network. It is not possible anymore to connect and read locally. The technician agreed that this was less smart than the previous analogue meter I could read every second. He offered me to replace the new meter by my old meter....!

This week I received a 'monthly water report' from BW. The consumption is 'high', but without resolution I am not able anymore to see at what time is was consumed.

Looking now for a small digital meter I can place inline.

Re: P1 watermeter device missing

Posted: Monday 14 September 2026 22:45
by waltervl
I would take the offer of BrabantWater to have the old meter reinstalled. That perhaps will learn them to take customers requests about smart metering serious.