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Re: Temp sensors suddenly recognized as Temp+Hum

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gizmocuz wrote: Wednesday 28 November 2018 17:26 it's a problem that this is reported by the zwave node

And now for a solution... it might be possible to configure (in the node configuration file), not not report the humidity value
So far from inclusion? I imagine it's not possible to block new sub-devices adds a few minutes after inclusion as a lot only expose them at the first measurement sent... so unchecking accept new hardware will not fix this?
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Re: Temp sensors suddenly recognized as Temp+Hum

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Same story here...
I updated Domoticz on September 23th to version 4.10007.
Several weeks later, on November 17th, one of my Fibaro smoke detectors (badkamer_temp) stopped reporting temperature. When I looked in the device table a new device was added:
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In my case not a huge problem, I strip of the humidity in pass2php so only the temp stays, but a very strange thing.

I think this is the relative part of my zwave xml:

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            <CommandClass id="49" name="COMMAND_CLASS_SENSOR_MULTILEVEL" version="8" innif="true">
                <Instance index="1" />
                <Value type="decimal" genre="user" instance="1" index="1" label="Temperature" units="C" read_only="true" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="0" min="0" max="0" value="22.6" />
                <Value type="decimal" genre="user" instance="1" index="5" label="Relative Humidity" units="%" read_only="true" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="0" min="0" max="0" value="18.8" />
                <Value type="decimal" genre="user" instance="1" index="9" label="Barometric Pressure" units="kPa" read_only="true" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="0" min="0" max="0" value="20.4" />
            </CommandClass>
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Re: Temp sensors suddenly recognized as Temp+Hum

Post by gizmocuz »

@gerardvs, well i have specifically designed it like this, so it is definitely not a flow
But, you could make an 'advanced' setting to not combine multiple sensor types in one type

Also, you are not the average user, please keep that in mind ! Most users buy (for example) a zwave temp+hum sensor, so... a temp+hum sensor

Anyways, please make a PR with a setting that , when enabled, will not combine sensors.
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Re: Temp sensors suddenly recognized as Temp+Hum

Post by gerardvs »

ok, fair enough. Thanks for the suggestion.
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Re: Temp sensors suddenly recognized as Temp+Hum

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I have just deleted stuff in my zwave xml file: /home/pi/domoticz/Config/zwcfg_0x014cdf33.xml
before anything, make a backup

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cp zwcfg_0x014cdf33.xml backup_zwcfg_0x014cdf33.xml 
I searched for COMMAND_CLASS_SENSOR_MULTILEVEL and the below sensors appears that I don't have (have only Temperature) Relative humidity and CO2 level. I did this for deletion for each "faulty" sensor in my Qubino relay with DS18B20

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  <CommandClass id="49" name="COMMAND_CLASS_SENSOR_MULTILEVEL" version="7" request_flags="1" innif="true">
                <Instance index="1" endpoint="2" />
                <Value type="decimal" genre="user" instance="1" index="1" label="Temperature" units="C" read_only="true" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="0" min="0" max="0" value="21.5" />
                <Value type="decimal" genre="user" instance="1" index="5" label="Relative Humidity" units="%" read_only="true" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="0" min="0" max="0" value="21.5" />
                <Value type="decimal" genre="user" instance="1" index="17" label="CO2 Level" units="ppm" read_only="true" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="0" min="0" max="0" value="24.0" />
            </CommandClass>
and after deleting:

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  <CommandClass id="49" name="COMMAND_CLASS_SENSOR_MULTILEVEL" version="7" request_flags="1" innif="true">
                <Instance index="1" endpoint="2" />
                <Value type="decimal" genre="user" instance="1" index="1" label="Temperature" units="C" read_only="true" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="0" min="0" max="0" value="21.5" />
    </CommandClass>

And then OpenZawe looks better, those annoying humidity and CO2 sensors are gone :-)
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Re: Temp sensors suddenly recognized as Temp+Hum

Post by gizmocuz »

@bjacobse, good to see this !!... i hope in a few days it will stay the same...
Also try to power off/on the node... just in case
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Re: Temp sensors suddenly recognized as Temp+Hum

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gizmocuz wrote: Thursday 29 November 2018 21:20 @bjacobse, good to see this !!... i hope in a few days it will stay the same...
Also try to power off/on the node... just in case
Yes I will monitor and try power cycle as you propose, Thank you @gizmocuz for pointing me to this direction :-)

BTW I have created a bug in OpenZwave, as I am unsure if this is similar for other manufactures, I have only created this as Qubino ZMNHADx Flush 1 specific bug

https://github.com/OpenZWave/open-zwave/issues/1658
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Re: Temp sensors suddenly recognized as Temp+Hum

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I have suddenly had this problem also, with a Fibaro FGBS-222.
It was installed 11th November, and has been working flawlessly, until a month ago, in the beginning of march.

In my domoticz config folder I didn´t have a zwcfg file, so I took a backup of the ozwcache file, and I think that I also took that file and renamed to a zwcfg file, maybe that doesn´t work?

Well, now a month later, the problems started again with the same temp sensors.

So, I did as "lost" pointed out in this thread, to delete those lines in the zwcfg that are sensors that I don´t have.

Before deleting:

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            <CommandClass id="49" name="COMMAND_CLASS_SENSOR_MULTILEVEL">
                <Compatibility />
                <State>
                    <CCVersion>11</CCVersion>
                    <InNif>true</InNif>
                    <StaticRequests>1</StaticRequests>
                </State>
                <Instance index="1" endpoint="3" />
                <Instance index="2" endpoint="4" />
                <Instance index="3" endpoint="7" />
                <Instance index="4" endpoint="8" />
                <Instance index="5" endpoint="9" />
                <Instance index="6" endpoint="10" />
                <Value type="decimal" genre="user" instance="3" index="0" label="Unknown" units="" read_only="true" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="2" min="0" max="0" value="12.6">
                    <Help></Help>
                </Value>
                <Value type="decimal" genre="user" instance="6" index="0" label="Unknown" units="" read_only="true" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="2" min="0" max="0" value="4.5">
                    <Help></Help>
                </Value>
                <Value type="decimal" genre="user" instance="1" index="1" label="Air Temperature" units="C" read_only="true" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="2" min="0" max="0" value="11.5">
                    <Help>Air Temperature Sensor Value</Help>
                </Value>
                <Value type="decimal" genre="user" instance="3" index="1" label="Air Temperature" units="C" read_only="true" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="2" min="0" max="0" value="12.0">
                    <Help>Air Temperature Sensor Value</Help>
                </Value>
                <Value type="decimal" genre="user" instance="4" index="1" label="Air Temperature" units="C" read_only="true" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="2" min="0" max="0" value="2.1">
                    <Help>Air Temperature Sensor Value</Help>
                </Value>
                <Value type="decimal" genre="user" instance="5" index="1" label="Air Temperature" units="C" read_only="true" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="2" min="0" max="0" value="3.4">
                    <Help>Air Temperature Sensor Value</Help>
                </Value>
                <Value type="decimal" genre="user" instance="6" index="1" label="Air Temperature" units="C" read_only="true" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="2" min="0" max="0" value="2.9">
                    <Help>Air Temperature Sensor Value</Help>
                </Value>
                <Value type="decimal" genre="user" instance="5" index="5" label="Humidity" units="%" read_only="true" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="2" min="0" max="0" value="1.5">
                    <Help>Humidity Sensor Value</Help>
                </Value>
                <Value type="decimal" genre="user" instance="1" index="15" label="Voltage" units="V" read_only="true" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="2" min="0" max="0" value="10.73">
                    <Help>Voltage Sensor Value</Help>
                </Value>
                <Value type="decimal" genre="user" instance="2" index="15" label="Voltage" units="V" read_only="true" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="2" min="0" max="0" value="10.07">
                    <Help>Voltage Sensor Value</Help>
                </Value>
                <Value type="decimal" genre="user" instance="6" index="17" label="Carbon Dioxide" units="Ppm" read_only="true" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="2" min="0" max="0" value="3.2">
                    <Help>Carbon Dioxide Sensor Value</Help>
                </Value>
                <Value type="list" genre="system" instance="3" index="256" label="Air Temperature Units" units="" read_only="false" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="0" min="0" max="0" vindex="0" size="1">
                    <Help>Air Temperature Sensor Available Units</Help>
                    <Item label="Celsius" value="0" />
                </Value>
                <Value type="list" genre="system" instance="4" index="256" label="Air Temperature Units" units="" read_only="false" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="0" min="0" max="0" vindex="0" size="1">
                    <Help>Air Temperature Sensor Available Units</Help>
                    <Item label="Celsius" value="0" />
                </Value>
                <Value type="list" genre="system" instance="5" index="256" label="Air Temperature Units" units="" read_only="false" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="0" min="0" max="0" vindex="0" size="1">
                    <Help>Air Temperature Sensor Available Units</Help>
                    <Item label="Celsius" value="0" />
                </Value>
                <Value type="list" genre="system" instance="6" index="256" label="Air Temperature Units" units="" read_only="false" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="0" min="0" max="0" vindex="0" size="1">
                    <Help>Air Temperature Sensor Available Units</Help>
                    <Item label="Celsius" value="0" />
                </Value>
                <Value type="list" genre="system" instance="1" index="270" label="Voltage Units" units="" read_only="false" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="0" min="0" max="0" vindex="0" size="1">
                    <Help>Voltage Sensor Available Units</Help>
                    <Item label="Volts" value="0" />
                </Value>
                <Value type="list" genre="system" instance="2" index="270" label="Voltage Units" units="" read_only="false" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="0" min="0" max="0" vindex="0" size="1">
                    <Help>Voltage Sensor Available Units</Help>
                    <Item label="Volts" value="0" />
                </Value>
            </CommandClass>
Efter deleting:

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            <CommandClass id="49" name="COMMAND_CLASS_SENSOR_MULTILEVEL">
                <Compatibility />
                <State>
                    <CCVersion>11</CCVersion>
                    <InNif>true</InNif>
                    <StaticRequests>1</StaticRequests>
                </State>
                <Instance index="1" endpoint="3" />
                <Instance index="2" endpoint="4" />
                <Instance index="3" endpoint="7" />
                <Instance index="4" endpoint="8" />
                <Instance index="5" endpoint="9" />
                <Instance index="6" endpoint="10" />
                <Value type="decimal" genre="user" instance="1" index="1" label="Air Temperature" units="C" read_only="true" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="2" min="0" max="0" value="11.5">
                    <Help>Air Temperature Sensor Value</Help>
                </Value>
                <Value type="decimal" genre="user" instance="3" index="1" label="Air Temperature" units="C" read_only="true" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="2" min="0" max="0" value="12.0">
                    <Help>Air Temperature Sensor Value</Help>
                </Value>
                <Value type="decimal" genre="user" instance="4" index="1" label="Air Temperature" units="C" read_only="true" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="2" min="0" max="0" value="2.1">
                    <Help>Air Temperature Sensor Value</Help>
                </Value>
                <Value type="decimal" genre="user" instance="5" index="1" label="Air Temperature" units="C" read_only="true" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="2" min="0" max="0" value="3.4">
                    <Help>Air Temperature Sensor Value</Help>
                </Value>
                <Value type="decimal" genre="user" instance="6" index="1" label="Air Temperature" units="C" read_only="true" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="2" min="0" max="0" value="2.9">
                    <Help>Air Temperature Sensor Value</Help>
                <Value type="list" genre="system" instance="3" index="256" label="Air Temperature Units" units="" read_only="false" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="0" min="0" max="0" vindex="0" size="1">
                    <Help>Air Temperature Sensor Available Units</Help>
                    <Item label="Celsius" value="0" />
                </Value>
                <Value type="list" genre="system" instance="4" index="256" label="Air Temperature Units" units="" read_only="false" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="0" min="0" max="0" vindex="0" size="1">
                    <Help>Air Temperature Sensor Available Units</Help>
                    <Item label="Celsius" value="0" />
                </Value>
                <Value type="list" genre="system" instance="5" index="256" label="Air Temperature Units" units="" read_only="false" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="0" min="0" max="0" vindex="0" size="1">
                    <Help>Air Temperature Sensor Available Units</Help>
                    <Item label="Celsius" value="0" />
                </Value>
                <Value type="list" genre="system" instance="6" index="256" label="Air Temperature Units" units="" read_only="false" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="0" min="0" max="0" vindex="0" size="1">
                    <Help>Air Temperature Sensor Available Units</Help>
                    <Item label="Celsius" value="0" />
                </Value>
                <Value type="list" genre="system" instance="1" index="270" label="Voltage Units" units="" read_only="false" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="0" min="0" max="0" vindex="0" size="1">
                    <Help>Voltage Sensor Available Units</Help>
                    <Item label="Volts" value="0" />
                </Value>
                <Value type="list" genre="system" instance="2" index="270" label="Voltage Units" units="" read_only="false" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="0" min="0" max="0" vindex="0" size="1">
                    <Help>Voltage Sensor Available Units</Help>
                    <Item label="Volts" value="0" />
                </Value>
My ozwcache file reports this

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            <CommandClass id="49" name="COMMAND_CLASS_SENSOR_MULTILEVEL">
                <Compatibility />
                <State>
                    <CCVersion>11</CCVersion>
                    <InNif>true</InNif>
                    <StaticRequests>1</StaticRequests>
                </State>
                <Instance index="1" endpoint="3" />
                <Instance index="2" endpoint="4" />
                <Instance index="3" endpoint="8" />
                <Instance index="4" endpoint="10" />
                <Value type="decimal" genre="user" instance="1" index="1" label="Air Temperature" units="C" read_only="true" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="0" min="0" max="0" value="3.0">
                    <Help>Air Temperature Sensor Value</Help>
                </Value>
                <Value type="decimal" genre="user" instance="3" index="1" label="Air Temperature" units="C" read_only="true" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="0" min="0" max="0" value="6.1">
                    <Help>Air Temperature Sensor Value</Help>
                </Value>
                <Value type="decimal" genre="user" instance="4" index="1" label="Air Temperature" units="C" read_only="true" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="0" min="0" max="0" value="4.8">
                    <Help>Air Temperature Sensor Value</Help>
                </Value>
                <Value type="decimal" genre="user" instance="1" index="15" label="Voltage" units="V" read_only="true" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="0" min="0" max="0" value="10.71">
                    <Help>Voltage Sensor Value</Help>
                </Value>
                <Value type="list" genre="system" instance="3" index="256" label="Air Temperature Units" units="" read_only="false" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="0" min="0" max="0" vindex="0" size="1">
                    <Help>Air Temperature Sensor Available Units</Help>
                    <Item label="Celsius" value="0" />
                </Value>
                <Value type="list" genre="system" instance="1" index="270" label="Voltage Units" units="" read_only="false" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="0" min="0" max="0" vindex="0" size="1">
                    <Help>Voltage Sensor Available Units</Help>
                    <Item label="Volts" value="0" />
                </Value>
            </CommandClass>
Is this really correct? The config file seems to me that it contains veeeery much information for that node, is it that advanced?
Why does this keep happening for me? :)
Or have I solved it by now?
It seems to show correct values for now, but it have changed instance numbers for the sensors, so I don´t know which is which.
But I can live with that, it´s easy to check.

I tried to paste the whole "node 55" config from zwcfg, but that was too many characters for the forum.
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Re: Temp sensors suddenly recognized as Temp+Hum

Post by danny »

Same problem as descibed. Worked perfect for few months. After that same problem. Missing 1 or 2 sensors. And having a temp/rv sensor. Regarding the fibaro first version of binaire switch.
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Re: Temp sensors suddenly recognized as Temp+Hum

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Same issue here. New devices created with subtype "WTGR800" (used to be "LaCrosse TX3") on a Fibaro UBS FGBS-001 hooked up to 4 DS18B20 sensors.

My Domoticz version is 2020.1 running on Win7 and using Aeotec Z-Stick for Z-Wave connectivity.

Any tip on how to revert or should I just use the new added devices instead? From my experience, it will happen from time to time (every x months) resulting in loss of temperature readings history + messing up JSON requests with the old devices id.
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Re: Temp sensors suddenly recognized as Temp+Hum

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lamama1234 wrote: Tuesday 01 June 2021 9:33 Same issue here. New devices created with subtype "WTGR800" (used to be "LaCrosse TX3") on a Fibaro UBS FGBS-001 hooked up to 4 DS18B20 sensors.

My Domoticz version is 2020.1 running on Win7 and using Aeotec Z-Stick for Z-Wave connectivity.

Any tip on how to revert or should I just use the new added devices instead? From my experience, it will happen from time to time (every x months) resulting in loss of temperature readings history + messing up JSON requests with the old devices id.
This has just happened to me again.

Did you found a solution?
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Re: Temp sensors suddenly recognized as Temp+Hum

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TheeDude wrote: Monday 07 June 2021 21:40
lamama1234 wrote: Tuesday 01 June 2021 9:33 Same issue here. New devices created with subtype "WTGR800" (used to be "LaCrosse TX3") on a Fibaro UBS FGBS-001 hooked up to 4 DS18B20 sensors.

My Domoticz version is 2020.1 running on Win7 and using Aeotec Z-Stick for Z-Wave connectivity.

Any tip on how to revert or should I just use the new added devices instead? From my experience, it will happen from time to time (every x months) resulting in loss of temperature readings history + messing up JSON requests with the old devices id.
This has just happened to me again.

Did you found a solution?
There seems to be a workaround, as described here: viewtopic.php?p=264337#p264337

I haven't tried it yet..
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Re: Temp sensors suddenly recognized as Temp+Hum

Post by lost »

Hello,

I did not dig into this for now, but one fibaro "eye" PIR did it again in July... Last time I was on OZW 1.4 and zwcfg file change did the trick. Looking at files dates in Config directory, looks this file was not updated since I first upgraded to a domoticz version that's OZW 1.6 based. Only ozwcache file looks in use now.

If someone can confirm that this last file must now have temp+hum related lines purged (while domoticz/OZW is stopped, of course) to restore temp readings?

Also, if some progress was made on the root cause of this issue & ways to avoid this in the future, please let me know!
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Re: Temp sensors suddenly recognized as Temp+Hum

Post by lost »

Looks changing ozwcache file (removing bad temp+hum lines + restoring original temp ; I have another same device, this helps) while domoticz service is stopped did the trick to restore temp readings. But looks a device wake-up close to controller was needed and this wake-up than hanged zwave driver, as this occurs sometimes. Before wake-up/hang, after waiting for all nodes queried message, every triggered devices (Like PIRs) reported on then off several times in a few hundred ms.

So I would not recommend it as this triggered a weird z-wave behavior, even if this looks OK now after a second domoticz restart and no more device manual wake-up.
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