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Re: Cheap chinese z-wave products

Posted: Sunday 28 August 2016 9:39
by manuloup
Hi,

Thanks for the info. I just ordered 2 power plugs, 33€ each.

Wait and see...

Re: Cheap chinese z-wave products

Posted: Sunday 28 August 2016 11:22
by Derik
mmm Should this be ok?
Is perhaps the motion not include?
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Because i see no settings:
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Re: Cheap chinese z-wave products

Posted: Sunday 28 August 2016 16:01
by LouiS22
Derik wrote:mmm Should this be ok?
Is perhaps the motion not include?
ScreenShot002.jpg

Because i see no settings:
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Damn, there's a typo in manufacturer specific xml (my mistake). I'm gonna provide an update to ozw, but it's gonna take time.

If you want to test drive, please edit your manufacturer specific xml and replace the 0 to 1 in the following line (the id should be 1083):

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<Product type="0003" id="0083" name="Battery Powered PIR Sensor" config="shenzen_neo/nas-pd01z.xml"/>

Re: Cheap chinese z-wave products

Posted: Tuesday 30 August 2016 20:35
by Derik
Perhaps some one that can tell me what the options are with the:
Xenon-M1 Smart Home Module

Can i use more then 1 pin?
Or is perhaps a multiple option possible?
Motion and temp or some other combi's?
http://www.dhgate.com/product/getProduc ... 72718a4a1e

Re: Cheap chinese z-wave products

Posted: Tuesday 30 August 2016 22:09
by Goldwing1973
To bad the NEO stuff is now about the same price as the original Fibaro.
I got one plug for $25.00 but now the prices skyrocketed to $55.00 and if you put some effort in finding cheaper the cheapest is $37.50.

Re: RE: Re: Cheap chinese z-wave products

Posted: Wednesday 31 August 2016 8:59
by deennoo
Goldwing1973 wrote:To bad the NEO stuff is now about the same price as the original Fibaro.
I got one plug for $25.00 but now the prices skyrocketed to $55.00 and if you put some effort in finding cheaper the cheapest is $37.50.
Same for me...

Re: RE: Re: Cheap chinese z-wave products

Posted: Wednesday 31 August 2016 14:03
by LouiS22
deennoo wrote:
Goldwing1973 wrote:To bad the NEO stuff is now about the same price as the original Fibaro.
I got one plug for $25.00 but now the prices skyrocketed to $55.00 and if you put some effort in finding cheaper the cheapest is $37.50.
Same for me...
But it was clear (and they even noted on Ali), that the cheap price is just a promotion.

Re: RE: Re: Cheap chinese z-wave products

Posted: Thursday 01 September 2016 22:11
by Goldwing1973
LouiS22 wrote:
deennoo wrote:
Goldwing1973 wrote:To bad the NEO stuff is now about the same price as the original Fibaro.
I got one plug for $25.00 but now the prices skyrocketed to $55.00 and if you put some effort in finding cheaper the cheapest is $37.50.
Same for me...
But it was clear (and they even noted on Ali), that the cheap price is just a promotion.
Could be, i just found out about them when it was too late and prices went up again.
I did get one cheap, but wanted to know the quality first before ordering more, and by then it was to late.

Re: RE: Re: Cheap chinese z-wave products

Posted: Friday 02 September 2016 8:07
by LouiS22
Goldwing1973 wrote:
LouiS22 wrote:
deennoo wrote: Same for me...
But it was clear (and they even noted on Ali), that the cheap price is just a promotion.
Could be, i just found out about them when it was too late and prices went up again.
I did get one cheap, but wanted to know the quality first before ordering more, and by then it was to late.
FYI, de door sensor was just 28 EUR today - still, it's way cheaper than any other door sensors.

Re: RE: Re: Cheap chinese z-wave products

Posted: Friday 02 September 2016 8:41
by Goldwing1973
LouiS22 wrote:
Goldwing1973 wrote:
LouiS22 wrote:
But it was clear (and they even noted on Ali), that the cheap price is just a promotion.
Could be, i just found out about them when it was too late and prices went up again.
I did get one cheap, but wanted to know the quality first before ordering more, and by then it was to late.
FYI, de door sensor was just 28 EUR today - still, it's way cheaper than any other door sensors.
Was? Or still is?
If it still is, do you have a link?

Re: Cheap chinese z-wave products

Posted: Friday 02 September 2016 11:57
by LouiS22
Still and it's a mobile only deal on Aliexpress (you can get it from their app). Also, it's on the official Neo Coolcam Store, think it's easy to find it. Pro top: put the items to wish list, then you can easily check the price drop, as the Ali app will notify you :)

Re: Cheap chinese z-wave products

Posted: Friday 02 September 2016 17:26
by trixwood
I got no money back on the version with the T instead of the Z, I can not even trade them in. Useless paperweights.
Another 50+ euro out of the window. I got various other products disputes with ali, and their buyers protections means seller protection. (not delivered, wrong items). I never see any of the money back. Never got this problem with ebay.

Re: Cheap chinese z-wave products

Posted: Friday 02 September 2016 18:20
by Goldwing1973
LouiS22 wrote:Still and it's a mobile only deal on Aliexpress (you can get it from their app). Also, it's on the official Neo Coolcam Store, think it's easy to find it. Pro top: put the items to wish list, then you can easily check the price drop, as the Ali app will notify you :)
Just installed the Aliexpress App and searched for "NEO Door Sensor"
Found one, but that is useless, it's part number NAS-DS01T, the T makes it useless, it needs to end with a Z for it to be the z-wave version.

EDIT, searching for "NAS-DS01Z" did show the correct one.

Re: Cheap chinese z-wave products

Posted: Saturday 03 September 2016 14:48
by LouiS22
trixwood wrote:I got no money back on the version with the T instead of the Z, I can not even trade them in. Useless paperweights.
Another 50+ euro out of the window. I got various other products disputes with ali, and their buyers protections means seller protection. (not delivered, wrong items). I never see any of the money back. Never got this problem with ebay.
That's not true, I've had several disputes (mostly item not arrived) and always got my money back.

Re: Cheap chinese z-wave products

Posted: Saturday 03 September 2016 16:02
by trixwood
Then you where more lucky then me :cry:

The last items i did not receive, where send back to china due to failure of delivery, the seller already knew 3 weeks, he got it's items back,... do you know what I got back after complaning for a while?

The items that where 1 and 2 euros... alas not the expensive ones... same package :? I stick to really cheap stuff 5 euro or less... since the extra cost rate is now more then 33%....

Personal experiences differ... lucky you

Re: Cheap chinese z-wave products

Posted: Monday 05 September 2016 19:02
by Derik
mmm Think this cheaper then in Holland:
https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/NEO-COOL ... rue#extend

Work great 1 @ home.

2 days so...:-)

Re: Cheap chinese z-wave products

Posted: Wednesday 07 September 2016 23:53
by Goldwing1973
Derik wrote:mmm Think this cheaper then in Holland:
https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/NEO-COOL ... rue#extend

Work great 1 @ home.

2 days so...:-)

Thx for the link, ordered one.
It's cheaper then the Fibaro offer on Amazon.de (€44,99), i hope the quality is the same (or better)

Re: Cheap chinese z-wave products

Posted: Thursday 08 September 2016 7:51
by LouiS22
Goldwing1973 wrote:
Derik wrote:mmm Think this cheaper then in Holland:
https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/NEO-COOL ... rue#extend

Work great 1 @ home.

2 days so...:-)

Thx for the link, ordered one.
It's cheaper then the Fibaro offer on Amazon.de (€44,99), i hope the quality is the same (or better)
The build quality is cheaper (more plastic), there's no luminating led ring, and a you can't get that many parametering options (IMHO Fibaro has so many), but otherwise it's the same. So if you want to monitor the power consuption/switch on/off the device you won't regret the order.

Re: Cheap chinese z-wave products

Posted: Thursday 08 September 2016 18:42
by Goldwing1973
LouiS22 wrote:
Goldwing1973 wrote:
Derik wrote:mmm Think this cheaper then in Holland:
https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/NEO-COOL ... rue#extend

Work great 1 @ home.

2 days so...:-)

Thx for the link, ordered one.
It's cheaper then the Fibaro offer on Amazon.de (€44,99), i hope the quality is the same (or better)
The build quality is cheaper (more plastic), there's no luminating led ring, and a you can't get that many parametering options (IMHO Fibaro has so many), but otherwise it's the same. So if you want to monitor the power consuption/switch on/off the device you won't regret the order.

Wow... "So if you want to monitor the power consuption/switch on/off the device" that is one cool MOTION SENSOR :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Cheap chinese z-wave products

Posted: Friday 09 September 2016 11:06
by splitfile
Derik wrote:mmm Think this cheaper then in Holland:
https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/NEO-COOL ... rue#extend

Work great 1 @ home.

2 days so...:-)
Can it measure the temperature as well? (Like the Fibaro motion sensor can)