Electric curtains behaving weird - Forest Shuttle

[kevink]

Hi,
I have an electric curtain brand/type: Forest Shuttle with a Z-wave module attached to it. If operated manually (by pulling the curtain a little bit), it opens and closes as expected, thus the 'open' and 'closed' positions are known.

Today I started using Domoticz (Hi, new on this forum!) on my Raspberry Pi 2 type B and followed this guide to configure the RaZberry z-wave controller. http://www.vesternet.com/resources/appl ... 9F16JN96L_.
First I included a Danfoss LC13 to control the temperature in my room, which works fine, so I assume the RaZberry is properly configured.

Then I included the Forest Shuttle. Inclusion worked and it shows up in the hardware list (see screenshots), but I have no clue how to configure the switch. I tried many switch types, such as blinds, blinds percentage, dimmer, on/off, push on button, but none seem to work properly.
The curtains sometimes randomly open or close, without pushing the switch buttons. Also the reaction time seems very slow; sometimes something happens almost a minute after switching things; how can I speed this up?
First, I'd like to have a button to fully open/close the curtains and avoid the random opening/closing. Can someone help me with that? Thanks in advance.

Once that's working I'd like to proceed maybe 'inbetween' scenes, where the curtains are not fully closed, but just a little.

[LouiS22]

According to your last screenshot, de device itself is unknown, so there's no config xml - hence you can't configure your device. Are you on the beta channel or the stable one? The beta ozw contains one xml for this manufacturer, but it could be a new one which is not in the ozw github at all.

[kevink]

Thanks Louis. I'm sorry for not answering earlier, didn't have time to try again until now.

I was on the stable channel, but updated now to beta Version: 3.5700. I excluded the node and included it again. I get the same message; unknown. I suppose it's a different one than the xml that is already on the beta ozw and thus not supported yet?

Is it possible to make such an xml myself? How do I make this work...

I also contacted the manufacturer. I've been told that they didn't make the Z-wave receiver themselves and thus don't have tech. specs, but that it's based on the receiver in the attached document. I hope this helps?

ABMHZ_v1plus1_Advanced_User_Manual.pdf

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[Domosapiens]

Kevink,

Use this link as guidance for a How-to
http://www.domoticz.com/forum/viewtopic ... anufact%2A

In domoticz/Config/electronicsolutions/
there is a file: dbmz.xml
You could try to use that one, it seems to be generic.

How-to:
In domoticz/Config/
there is a file: manufacturer_specific.xml
Search for electronicsolutions and Add:

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<Product type="4647" id="0002" name="DBMZ Motor Control" config="electronicsolutions/dbmz.xml"/>

Stop Z-Wave
Remove the node 033 related section from your zwcfg_0xaaaaaaa.xml
Restart Z-Wave
Check you log file and see if a Configuration screen comes for the node.

Hope this helps
Domosapiens

[ceedebee]

I'm using the forest curtain with the build in zwave module. This one also has no xml configuration file but is working correctly. So the file is not always necessary.

[Domosapiens]

has no xml configuration file but is working correctly

Just curious..
And are you able to configure:
- Unit calibration state
- Unit motor direction state
- Unit tilt feature state
In the Nodes configuration tab?

[kevink]

@Domosapiens

thank you for the detailed explanation. I'm new to Domoticz, so not really sure about the things I'm doing.

I didn't really understand the link you sent, but I managed to find the dbmz.xml file. I also added that product line to manufacturer_specific.xml.
I don't know how to stop and restart z-wave. I think I succesfully removed the 033 related section. Enclosed the file in case you want to check. Then I rebooted the raspberry pi. I hope this has the same effect as restarting z-wave.
Then I tried to include the node, and this time it showed:
"Included node:3
DBMZ Motor Control"
which, I think, is the desired result

Now under hardware, I think it's idx 3? I pressed the green button to "add light/switch device"

In the Switches tab, my new switch appeared. I expected my curtains to close after pressing it, but that didn't happen. I included what appeared in my log.
What does this timeout notification mean?

and @ceedebee
I think your newer version of the Forest Shuttle uses a different Z-wave device. My Z-wave unit is a seperate little box, connected with a utp-cable.

LOG:

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2016-09-29 18:53:51.339 New sensors allowed for 5 minutes...
2016-09-29 18:53:51.341 OpenZWave: Node Include command initiated...
2016-09-29 18:54:06.066 OpenZWave: New Node added. HomeID: 4029292394, NodeID: 3 (0x03)
2016-09-29 18:54:06.086 OpenZWave: Value_Added: Node: 3 (0x03), CommandClass: SWITCH MULTILEVEL, Label: Level, Instance: 1
2016-09-29 18:54:06.087 (RaZberry) Light/Switch (Level)
2016-09-29 18:54:06.102 OpenZWave: Value_Added: Node: 3 (0x03), CommandClass: SWITCH MULTILEVEL, Label: Bright, Instance: 1
2016-09-29 18:54:06.103 OpenZWave: Value_Added: Node: 3 (0x03), CommandClass: SWITCH MULTILEVEL, Label: Dim, Instance: 1
2016-09-29 18:54:14.266 (RaZberry) Thermostat (Heating 1)
2016-09-29 18:54:16.340 OpenZWave: Received timeout notification from HomeID: 4029292394, NodeID: 3 (0x03)
2016-09-29 18:54:16.376 (RaZberry) Thermostat (Heating 1)
2016-09-29 18:54:16.589 OpenZWave: NodeID: 2 (0x02), Thermostat Clock: Monday 23:00
2016-09-29 18:54:16.589 (RaZberry) General/Thermostat Clock (Thermostat Clock)
2016-09-29 18:54:16.598 OpenZWave: All Nodes queried
2016-09-29 18:58:02.399 User: Admin initiated a switch command
2016-09-29 18:58:02.400 OpenZWave: Domoticz has send a Switch command!, Level: 255, NodeID: 3 (0x03)
2016-09-29 18:58:02.402 (RaZberry) Light/Switch (Gordijn)
2016-09-29 18:58:12.429 OpenZWave: Received timeout notification from HomeID: 4029292394, NodeID: 3 (0x03)
2016-09-29 18:58:22.453 OpenZWave: Received timeout notification from HomeID: 4029292394, NodeID: 3 (0x03)
2016-09-29 18:58:32.458 OpenZWave: Received timeout notification from HomeID: 4029292394, NodeID: 3 (0x03)
2016-09-29 18:58:42.462 OpenZWave: Received timeout notification from HomeID: 4029292394, NodeID: 3 (0x03)
2016-09-29 18:58:52.466 OpenZWave: Received timeout notification from HomeID: 4029292394, NodeID: 3 (0x03)
2016-09-29 18:59:02.470 OpenZWave: Received timeout notification from HomeID: 4029292394, NodeID: 3 (0x03)
2016-09-29 18:59:07.224 (RaZberry) Thermostat (Heating 1)
2016-09-29 18:59:12.473 OpenZWave: Received timeout notification from HomeID: 4029292394, NodeID: 3 (0x03)
2016-09-29 18:59:22.500 OpenZWave: Received timeout notification from HomeID: 4029292394, NodeID: 3 (0x03)
2016-09-29 18:59:32.504 OpenZWave: Received timeout notification from HomeID: 4029292394, NodeID: 3 (0x03)
2016-09-29 18:59:42.508 OpenZWave: Received timeout notification from HomeID: 4029292394, NodeID: 3 (0x03)
2016-09-29 18:59:52.512 OpenZWave: Received timeout notification from HomeID: 4029292394, NodeID: 3 (0x03)
2016-09-29 19:00:02.516 OpenZWave: Received timeout notification from HomeID: 4029292394, NodeID: 3 (0x03)

zwcfg_0xf02a1f6a.xml (before including the node):

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<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8" ?>
<Driver xmlns="http://code.google.com/p/open-zwave/" version="3" home_id="0xf02a1f6a" node_id="1" api_capabilities="0" controller_capabilities="40" poll_interval="60000" poll_interval_between="false">
    <Node id="1" name="" location="" basic="2" generic="2" specific="1" type="Static PC Controller" listening="true" frequentListening="false" beaming="true" routing="false" max_baud_rate="40000" version="4" query_stage="Complete">
        <Manufacturer id="147" name="Z-Wave.Me">
            <Product type="400" id="1" name="RaZberry Controller ZWave+" />
        </Manufacturer>
        <CommandClasses>
            <CommandClass id="32" name="COMMAND_CLASS_BASIC" version="1" after_mark="true">
                <Instance index="1" />
                <Value type="byte" genre="basic" instance="1" index="0" label="Basic" units="" read_only="false" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="0" min="0" max="255" value="0" />
            </CommandClass>
        </CommandClasses>
    </Node>
    <Node id="2" name="" location="" basic="4" generic="8" specific="4" type="Setpoint Thermostat" listening="false" frequentListening="false" beaming="true" routing="true" max_baud_rate="40000" version="4" query_stage="Complete">
        <Manufacturer id="2" name="Danfoss">
            <Product type="5" id="4" name="Z Thermostat 014G0013" />
        </Manufacturer>
        <CommandClasses>
            <CommandClass id="67" name="COMMAND_CLASS_THERMOSTAT_SETPOINT" version="1" request_flags="4" override_precision="2" innif="true" base="0">
                <Instance index="1" />
                <Value type="decimal" genre="user" instance="1" index="1" label="Heating 1" units="C" read_only="false" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="0" min="0" max="0" value="4.00" />
            </CommandClass>
            <CommandClass id="70" name="COMMAND_CLASS_CLIMATE_CONTROL_SCHEDULE" version="1" request_flags="4" innif="true" change_counter="0">
                <Instance index="1" />
                <Value type="schedule" genre="user" instance="1" index="1" label="Monday" units="" read_only="false" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="0" min="0" max="0" />
                <Value type="schedule" genre="user" instance="1" index="2" label="Tuesday" units="" read_only="false" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="0" min="0" max="0" />
                <Value type="schedule" genre="user" instance="1" index="3" label="Wednesday" units="" read_only="false" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="0" min="0" max="0" />
                <Value type="schedule" genre="user" instance="1" index="4" label="Thursday" units="" read_only="false" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="0" min="0" max="0" />
                <Value type="schedule" genre="user" instance="1" index="5" label="Friday" units="" read_only="false" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="0" min="0" max="0" />
                <Value type="schedule" genre="user" instance="1" index="6" label="Saturday" units="" read_only="false" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="0" min="0" max="0" />
                <Value type="schedule" genre="user" instance="1" index="7" label="Sunday" units="" read_only="false" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="0" min="0" max="0" />
                <Value type="list" genre="user" instance="1" index="8" label="Override State" units="" read_only="false" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="0" min="0" max="0" vindex="0" size="1">
                    <Item label="None" value="0" />
                    <Item label="Temporary" value="1" />
                    <Item label="Permanent" value="2" />
                </Value>
                <Value type="byte" genre="user" instance="1" index="9" label="Override Setback" units="" read_only="false" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="0" min="0" max="255" value="127" />
            </CommandClass>
            <CommandClass id="114" name="COMMAND_CLASS_MANUFACTURER_SPECIFIC" version="1" request_flags="4" innif="true">
                <Instance index="1" />
            </CommandClass>
            <CommandClass id="117" name="COMMAND_CLASS_PROTECTION" version="1" request_flags="4" innif="true">
                <Instance index="1" />
                <Value type="list" genre="system" instance="1" index="0" label="Protection" units="" read_only="false" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="0" min="0" max="0" vindex="0" size="1">
                    <Item label="Unprotected" value="0" />
                    <Item label="Protection by Sequence" value="1" />
                    <Item label="No Operation Possible" value="2" />
                </Value>
            </CommandClass>
            <CommandClass id="128" name="COMMAND_CLASS_BATTERY" version="1" request_flags="4" innif="true">
                <Instance index="1" />
                <Value type="byte" genre="user" instance="1" index="0" label="Battery Level" units="%" read_only="true" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="0" min="0" max="255" value="70" />
            </CommandClass>
            <CommandClass id="129" name="COMMAND_CLASS_CLOCK" version="1" request_flags="4" innif="true">
                <Instance index="1" />
                <Value type="list" genre="user" instance="1" index="0" label="Day" units="" read_only="false" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="0" min="0" max="0" vindex="0" size="1">
                    <Item label="Monday" value="1" />
                    <Item label="Tuesday" value="2" />
                    <Item label="Wednesday" value="3" />
                    <Item label="Thursday" value="4" />
                    <Item label="Friday" value="5" />
                    <Item label="Saturday" value="6" />
                    <Item label="Sunday" value="7" />
                </Value>
                <Value type="byte" genre="user" instance="1" index="1" label="Hour" units="" read_only="false" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="0" min="0" max="255" value="0" />
                <Value type="byte" genre="user" instance="1" index="2" label="Minute" units="" read_only="false" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="0" min="0" max="255" value="57" />
            </CommandClass>
            <CommandClass id="132" name="COMMAND_CLASS_WAKE_UP" version="2" innif="true">
                <Instance index="1" />
                <Value type="int" genre="system" instance="1" index="0" label="Wake-up Interval" units="Seconds" read_only="false" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="0" min="-2147483648" max="2147483647" value="300" />
                <Value type="int" genre="system" instance="1" index="1" label="Minimum Wake-up Interval" units="Seconds" read_only="true" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="0" min="-2147483648" max="2147483647" value="60" />
                <Value type="int" genre="system" instance="1" index="2" label="Maximum Wake-up Interval" units="Seconds" read_only="true" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="0" min="-2147483648" max="2147483647" value="1800" />
                <Value type="int" genre="system" instance="1" index="3" label="Default Wake-up Interval" units="Seconds" read_only="true" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="0" min="-2147483648" max="2147483647" value="300" />
                <Value type="int" genre="system" instance="1" index="4" label="Wake-up Interval Step" units="Seconds" read_only="true" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="0" min="-2147483648" max="2147483647" value="60" />
            </CommandClass>
            <CommandClass id="134" name="COMMAND_CLASS_VERSION" version="1" request_flags="4" innif="true">
                <Instance index="1" />
                <Value type="string" genre="system" instance="1" index="0" label="Library Version" units="" read_only="true" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="0" min="0" max="0" value="6" />
                <Value type="string" genre="system" instance="1" index="1" label="Protocol Version" units="" read_only="true" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="0" min="0" max="0" value="3.67" />
                <Value type="string" genre="system" instance="1" index="2" label="Application Version" units="" read_only="true" write_only="false" verify_changes="false" poll_intensity="0" min="0" max="0" value="1.01" />
            </CommandClass>
            <CommandClass id="143" name="COMMAND_CLASS_MULTI_CMD" version="1" request_flags="4" innif="true">
                <Instance index="1" />
            </CommandClass>
        </CommandClasses>
    </Node>
</Driver>

[kevink]

Update: It actually started moving after switching a few more times! But the response is slow, my log is still filled with:
OpenZWave: Received timeout notification from HomeID: 4029292394, NodeID: 3 (0x03)
And the behaviour is kind of unpredictable; currently the curtains just randomly open or close or open, then close again a few minutes after switching.

FYI: the raspberry pi with RaZberry module and curtains are in the same room - about 5m distance. Right next to the curtains is a Danfoss Z-wave thermostat, so I don't think the range is an issue.

Any ideas on how to improve?

[Domosapiens]

The unit could be in the calibration state ....

Go to the Nodes configuration tab

Just curious..
And are you able to configure:
- Unit calibration state
- Unit motor direction state
- Unit tilt feature state
In the Nodes configuration tab?

Make a snapshot

[kevink]

When I tried the switch today, I got the following error:
Error sending switch command, check device/hardware !
Also in the nodes configuration tab the status was"!" (see screenshot).

Screen-Shot-2016-09-30-at-18.08.49.jpg (88.67 KiB) Viewed 1922 times

Available options in the dropdown menu's:
1. Calibration: Normal, Calibration or Factory default
2. Motor Direction: Normal or Reversed
3. Tilt feature: No or Yes

In log, under the Status tab:

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2016-09-29 20:01:24.677 OpenZWave: Received timeout notification from HomeID: 4029292394, NodeID: 3 (0x03)
2016-09-29 20:01:34.681 OpenZWave: Received timeout notification from HomeID: 4029292394, NodeID: 3 (0x03)
2016-09-29 20:01:44.685 OpenZWave: Received timeout notification from HomeID: 4029292394, NodeID: 3 (0x03)
2016-09-29 20:01:44.866 OpenZWave: Received Node Dead notification from HomeID: 4029292394, NodeID: 3 (0x03)
2016-09-29 20:01:54.689 OpenZWave: Received timeout notification from HomeID: 4029292394, NodeID: 3 (0x03)
2016-09-30 00:00:02.239 EventSystem: reset all events...
2016-09-30 17:32:06.144 User: Admin initiated a switch command
2016-09-30 17:32:33.222 User: Admin initiated a switch command
2016-09-30 18:07:39.865 User: Admin initiated a switch command

So uhm. It died...

After restarting domoticz, it's alive again (status: green checkmark) and I can press the switch. But it's still not really responsive; it takes over a minute before the curtains finally start moving...

[Domosapiens]

Ok. The configuration options look normal.
Did you execute the calibration cycle?

Then you post ...

zwcfg_0xf02a1f6a.xml (before including the node):

Not so usefull

More useful is a post where node 003 is shown