Zigbee modules to make wall switches smart
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Zigbee modules to make wall switches smart
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When I started with Domoticz about 4 years ago I used Aqara Door & Window sensors to make my existing wall switches smart. With some coding in dzVents I have programmed actions with 1, 2, 3 and 4 pulses, see my post here. Although these switches still work well, the main reason for creating them was the unavailability of battery powered switch modules that fit behind an existing wall switch. I recently checked the Zigbee device database but did not find any useful alternatives to my solution again. Any suggestions?
Peter
When I started with Domoticz about 4 years ago I used Aqara Door & Window sensors to make my existing wall switches smart. With some coding in dzVents I have programmed actions with 1, 2, 3 and 4 pulses, see my post here. Although these switches still work well, the main reason for creating them was the unavailability of battery powered switch modules that fit behind an existing wall switch. I recently checked the Zigbee device database but did not find any useful alternatives to my solution again. Any suggestions?
Peter
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Re: Zigbee modules to make wall switches smart
Are you looking for something like this?
https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/TS00 ... uya-ts0044
You can put labels on them if you want, and they can be placed anywhere
Together with controlling Philips Hue, or a shelly or a zigbee dimmer it's a great combo
https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/TS00 ... uya-ts0044
You can put labels on them if you want, and they can be placed anywhere
Together with controlling Philips Hue, or a shelly or a zigbee dimmer it's a great combo
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Re: Zigbee modules to make wall switches smart
Hi Gizmocuz,
No, I'm looking for a module that fits behind the wall switch so the wall switch still looks the same as before it went smart.
Peter
No, I'm looking for a module that fits behind the wall switch so the wall switch still looks the same as before it went smart.
Peter
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Re: Zigbee modules to make wall switches smart
You can use something like this: https://amzn.eu/d/2ucAbrR
Zigbee device database: https://zigbee.blakadder.com/Sonoff_ZBMINIL2.html
Zigbee device database: https://zigbee.blakadder.com/Sonoff_ZBMINIL2.html
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Re: Zigbee modules to make wall switches smart
Or a lot cheaper with power monitor: https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/10050054 ... ry_from%3A
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Re: Zigbee modules to make wall switches smart
Hi Walter and Kedi,
Al those devices have one downside: they are powered with 230VAC - even though they only have a live connection and no neutral. They are powered by a small current that the module allows to flow through the load, even when that load is "switched off". I am searching for a module that's powered by a battery since I don't have 230VAC available at some of the wall switches.
Peter
Al those devices have one downside: they are powered with 230VAC - even though they only have a live connection and no neutral. They are powered by a small current that the module allows to flow through the load, even when that load is "switched off". I am searching for a module that's powered by a battery since I don't have 230VAC available at some of the wall switches.
Peter
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Re: Zigbee modules to make wall switches smart
What are you switching then? Not 230V?
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Re: Zigbee modules to make wall switches smart
If you are using Philips hue, this is also a way to control everything and can be used in place of your current switch
https://www.senic.com/products/friends- ... art-switch
It is 'not' powered by a battery, even better. (And work great!)
Philips Hue also has devices you can build into a wall socket, or you can directly control the lights
Philips Hue makes uses of Zigbee (and matter these days)
If you have zigbee already, you can use the above switch and control your devices
https://www.senic.com/products/friends- ... art-switch
It is 'not' powered by a battery, even better. (And work great!)
Philips Hue also has devices you can build into a wall socket, or you can directly control the lights
Philips Hue makes uses of Zigbee (and matter these days)
If you have zigbee already, you can use the above switch and control your devices
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Re: Zigbee modules to make wall switches smart
A battery module you can wire on an existing switch https://www.domomat.com/56526-module-em ... 67694.html
Possible cheaper in DIY
Possible cheaper in DIY
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Re: Zigbee modules to make wall switches smart
Hi,
I don't want to switch the power on and off with the module, but send signal via Zigbee to Domoticz when the switch is pressed. That signal activates a script that for example switches on smart lamps. Thus I am looking for a module like the one Thorgal suggest but not at 75 euro a piece. Thorgal, you suggest DIY. Do you have any examples? In fact the solution with the door & windows sensor is some kind of DIY and I can buy 5 or 6 of those modules for the same price. Maybe I should stick to those sensors...
Peter
I don't want to switch the power on and off with the module, but send signal via Zigbee to Domoticz when the switch is pressed. That signal activates a script that for example switches on smart lamps. Thus I am looking for a module like the one Thorgal suggest but not at 75 euro a piece. Thorgal, you suggest DIY. Do you have any examples? In fact the solution with the door & windows sensor is some kind of DIY and I can buy 5 or 6 of those modules for the same price. Maybe I should stick to those sensors...
Peter
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Re: Zigbee modules to make wall switches smart
Maybe something like this:
https://www.robbshop.nl/robb-smarrt-zig ... hilips-hue
https://www.robbshop.nl/robb-smarrt-zig ... hilips-hue
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Re: Zigbee modules to make wall switches smart
If you only want to use the switch as a trigger for a script and not really switch something you can use the battery powered switches as gizmocuz already explained. You only have to replace your real switch with the new ones.
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Re: Zigbee modules to make wall switches smart
The one from @Rik60 is cheaper than mine ^^.
Else in DIY mode, I haven't keep the page, but it's easy, the guy just take a cheaper switch from ikea or Xiaomi and have solder 2 wires on contacts, connected to their existing switch.
Cheap, all switch stay same.
Problem, the 75 euros module can work with one postion switch (push) or 2 positions switch (on / off), the DIY method support only the one position, so you need to found a push switch like the ones you already have (if it's a 2 positions)
Else in DIY mode, I haven't keep the page, but it's easy, the guy just take a cheaper switch from ikea or Xiaomi and have solder 2 wires on contacts, connected to their existing switch.
Cheap, all switch stay same.
Problem, the 75 euros module can work with one postion switch (push) or 2 positions switch (on / off), the DIY method support only the one position, so you need to found a push switch like the ones you already have (if it's a 2 positions)
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Re: Zigbee modules to make wall switches smart
Walter, I don't want to mix different kinds of wall switches and outlets. That's why I was looking for a module that fits invisibly behind an existing wall switch. Apparently they are only available at 75 euros each...
So I changed plans.
I ordered four door & window sensors from Aqara (the old type MCCGQ11LM). I already used them before and they work well 99.99% of the time. The existing switches are transformed to pushbuttons by adding a small spring. They are smaller then the Ikea or Aqara buttons so you can have two of them behind one switch. They are also easier to wire up. The only disadvantage is that they only recognize On and Off and can't handle multiclicks themselves. I solved that with a dzVents script, see Using an Aqara door sensor as a selector switch.
Peter
So I changed plans.
I ordered four door & window sensors from Aqara (the old type MCCGQ11LM). I already used them before and they work well 99.99% of the time. The existing switches are transformed to pushbuttons by adding a small spring. They are smaller then the Ikea or Aqara buttons so you can have two of them behind one switch. They are also easier to wire up. The only disadvantage is that they only recognize On and Off and can't handle multiclicks themselves. I solved that with a dzVents script, see Using an Aqara door sensor as a selector switch.
Peter
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