Urve Board Pi for Domoticz

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vfr7
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Urve Board Pi for Domoticz

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I'm considering an Urve Board Pi (https://urveboard.com/) as base for a Domoticz installation. It has onboard M2 SATA interface and would thereby get rid of the SD card and problems with that. Does somebody have any thoughts about this?
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vfr7 wrote: Monday 20 February 2023 13:45 I'm considering an Urve Board Pi (https://urveboard.com/) as base for a Domoticz installation. It has onboard M2 SATA interface and would thereby get rid of the SD card and problems with that. Does somebody have any thoughts about this?
You won't know if it will boot from the M2 until you try it. Problem is that you are probably one of the first to try... did you check with the manufactureer?

A while ago I ran a test on a handful of USB/SSD housings to see how they perform on the R-Pi 4 as boot device.
The outcome was stunning... about half of the housings did not boot the Pi at all, the other half did.
All housings worked OK when used as storage device, so not as boot.

This is caused by the driver chip in the interface.
I used three different SSD's and measured the performance.
This was as expected: my new Samsung EVO was fastest, by far.
The good old Kingston SSD that had been "resting" in my spare parts box still runs OK, but at a slower pace.
But all disks were much-much faster that the SD card as boot device, even when using a prime SD brand.

Full result were published in "PC Active" magazine.
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Re: Urve Board Pi for Domoticz

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Even if it doesn't boot natively from the SATA device, it shouldn't really be impossible to solve. A small bootloader on SD card that loads the real boot image from the M2 card. After the boot, the SD card won't be used any more and the system will go full speed against the SATA device with no further wear on the SD card. Faster and more reliable.
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Now I've got the Urve Board Pi. Looks real good. First thing is to boot it in normal mode without anything about Domoticz. One more positive thing about this board is the RTC and backup battery. That's good things to have in a home control system.
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vfr7 wrote:Now I've got the Urve Board Pi. Looks real good. First thing is to boot it in normal mode without anything about Domoticz. One more positive thing about this board is the RTC and backup battery. That's good things to have in a home control system.
Any progress, vfr7 ?

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Re: Urve Board Pi for Domoticz

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No, not really. I want to have the system booting from M2 device. That means the system must have an M2 bootloader and then take it from there. I haven't found anything about booting from M2. I think it should be well possible to boot a M2 bootloader from internal flash and then continue boot from M2 when that bootloader has started. I think hat should be a useful function for many people. You can then gave all your system on an M2 drive and just swap it out for another one if you want. Or you could easily test a new version of your system and then go back to the earlier version just by swapping the M2-card. That's one of the really big advantages of the standard RPi SD-card solution. Just sad it's so unreliable with SD-cards
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