Z-Wave factfile Eurotronic Spirit Z-Wave+ radiator thermostat controller

[berkens]

Supplier:
Eurotronic GmbH

Website:
https://www.eurotronic.org/produkte/spi ... -plus.html



Function:
HVAC Thermostats

Z-Wave5:
Yes

EAN:
4260012711301

Features:

• Easy control for water radiators from any Z-Wave Controller
  Fits most European water radiators (wide range of additional adaptors for different manufacturers available)
  FLiRS for quick response time (Frequently Listening Receiver Slave)
  LED Backlit LCD
  Metal nut for reliable connection to the radiator
  2 buttons for easy temperature regulation
  Battery level indicator
  Child Lock
  Over the Air update
  UK-Mode for upside down installation (LCD display upside-down)
  Open Window detection
  Automatic frost protection

Manual:
https://www.eurotronic.org/fileadmin/us ... iew_04.pdf

Datasheet (DE)
https://www.eurotronic.org/fileadmin/us ... 8_2017.pdf

Z-Wavealliance.org
https://products.z-wavealliance.org/products/2543

Product Features: View Features
Z-Wave Plus: Yes
Security S2 Classes: S2 Unauthenticated
Manufacturer Provided Product Manual: Download
Association Capabilities: View Associations
Configuration Capabilities: View Configuration Parameters
Z-Wave hardware platform: ZM5202
Z-Wave version: 6.71.01
Z-Wave library type: Enhanced 232 Slave
Z-Wave Device Type: Thermostat - HVAC
Z-Wave Role Type: Listening Sleeping Slave
Product Type ID: 0x0003
Product ID: 0x0001
Network Management Instructions: View Network Management Info

Command Classes: View Command Classes
Associated Categories: HVAC Thermostats
This Brand: See other products of this brand
Download Product Data in XML Format: Download

Nodes:

Eurotronic Spirit Nodes

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Configuration:

Eurotronic Spirit Configuration

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Product data XML

ZC10-17095777.XML

Eurotronic Product Data

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openzwave_manufacturer_specific.xml (manufacturer_specific.xml)

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<Manufacturer id="0148" name="EUROtronic">
                <Product type="0003" id="0001" name="EUR_SPIRIT Thermostat" config="eurotronic/eur_spirit.xml"/>
        </Manufacturer>

openzwave_deviceconfig.xml (eur_spirit.xml)

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<Product sourceFile="eurotronic/eur_spirit.xml">
        <!-- BASIC -->
        <CommandClass id="32" >
                <Value type="list" genre="user"  instance="1" index="0" label="BasicFunction" min="0" max="254" value="0" size="1">
                        <Item label="Off" value="15" />
                        <Item label="Heat" value="254" />
                        <Item label="Heat Econ" value="0" />
                        <Item label="Full Power" value="240" />
                </Value>
        </CommandClass>
        <!-- THERMOSTAT_MODE -->
        <CommandClass id="64" >
                <Value type="byte" genre="config" index="1" label="Mode" units="" min="0" max="15" value="0">
                <Help> 0=Off, 1=Heat, 11=Eco, 15=FullPower </Help>
                </Value>
        </CommandClass>
        <!-- THERMOSTAT_SETPOINT -->
        <CommandClass id="67">
                <Value type="decimal" genre="config" index="1" label="ComfortSetpoint" units="C" value="23"/>
                <Value type="decimal" genre="config" index="11" label="EnergySavingSetpoint" units="C" value="18"/>
        </CommandClass>
        <!-- Configuration Parameter -->
        <CommandClass id="112">
                <Value type="byte" genre="config" index="1" label="LCDInvert" units="" value="0"/>
                <Value type="byte" genre="config" index="2" label="LCDTimeout" units="" value="0"/>
                <Value type="byte" genre="config" index="3" label="Backlight" units="" value="1"/>
                <Value type="byte" genre="config" index="4" label="BatteryReport" units="" value="1"/>
                <Value type="byte" genre="config" index="5" label="MeasuredTempReport" units="" value="5"/>
                <Value type="byte" genre="config" index="6" label="ValveopenReport" units="" value="0"/>
                <Value type="byte" genre="config" index="7" label="WindowOpenDetect" units="" value="2"/>
                <Value type="byte" genre="config" index="8" label="TempOffset" units="" value="0"/>
        </CommandClass>

</Product>

To be continued...

[berkens]

The settings in Domoticz needs more fine tuning.

The HVAC/Thermostat is seen as a light/switch, switch, dimmer.

Eurotronic Spirit valve position

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Eurotronic Spirit valve position 86%

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I already changed the pictogram, it was shown as a bulb.

The are blinds, dimmer, doorbell, doorlock, doorswitch, sirene, nothing about heating that fits the need.

Different switch types

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[berkens]

The display in "up-side-down" mode.

For locations where the valve is mounted in other position.

In this picture the temperature = 22.0 ^oC.

Compare it to the the picture in the first msg

Eurotronic Spirit display upside-down

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[ropske]

Hi, first of all, thanks mate.

Do we need to copy/install this ZC10-17095777.XML somewhere?

Can you give us an overview of the devices you get in domoticz for 1 valve?
I got 11 devices but i don't know what they all mean/can do

And i think many other here also, thank you!

[Wolfgang]

Thank you for the XML File ,

but there is a problem with the temperature offset setting. If you set the offset to a value below 0 the value is not set.
I bought the valve to use it as an alternative to the danfoss lc-13 , because of the missing offset setting.
If you have a radiator built in a wooden cabinet you get wrong temperature values from the controller because of the hot spot near the sensor.
So the offset value is pretty important to me.

Addtional there is no possibility to set the target temp as a device like the lc-13 , is this a xml setting ?

[Wolfgang]

... found a solution ...

setting the value to 215 ( 255 - 40 = -4.0 degrees Offset ) is corresponding to the negative offset

[berkens]

Hi, first of all, thanks mate.

Do we need to copy/install this ZC10-17095777.XML somewhere?

Can you give us an overview of the devices you get in domoticz for 1 valve?
I got 11 devices but i don't know what they all mean/can do

The file ZC10,,,, is a product data file, explaining several specs of the controller.
You can you the information as a guideline to make the eur_spirit.xml, but I haven't used it in Domoticz.

I don't control the thermostat at this moment.

Can't help you with all the options.
.

[Madgeni]

Hi -
Am i missing something - which of the 11 switches allows me to set the temp setpoint?

Thanks for the help!

[jeecee]

How much sound does this device make, compared to the LC13 (which are basically mute)?


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[berkens]

Am i missing something - which of the 11 switches allows me to set the temp setpoint?

The Dry Air Temp is de heating setpoint.

[berkens]

How much sound does this device make, compared to the LC13 (which are basically mute)?

I find it very soft / quiet / silent compared to the Honeywell Rondostat heatvalve I have at other places. I don't hear it at 50 cm distantie.

[ropske]

for me its indeed very soft, i don't hear it.
i have allready a couple in my house

[Madgeni]

Am i missing something - which of the 11 switches allows me to set the temp setpoint?

The Dry Air Temp is de heating setpoint.

Thanks berkens

Do you have any issue with Domoticz not detecting it? The node isn't showing as asleep - but unseen - If i reboot Domoticz, it reconnects once and updates the data.

[berkens]

Am i missing something - which of the 11 switches allows me to set the temp setpoint?

The Dry Air Temp is de heating setpoint.

Thanks berkens

Do you have any issue with Domoticz not detecting it? The node isn't showing as asleep - but unseen - If i reboot Domoticz, it reconnects once and updates the data.

I'm still a beginner. Installed my Zwave.me USB stick and Domoticz on my Synology NAS DS214... Placed under the roof of my 3 story house I have often dead node(s) in the network. Also the Eurotronic Spirit heatvalve in the kitchenette downstairs is sometimes a dead node.

Now I installed the NAS on the ground floor in a cabinet and I loose the node(s) upstairs. Keeps me busy with problem before I go any further with home automation.

As repeaters I use 2x Neocam powerplug and a Heiman gasdetector HS1CG-Z on 220v, on the different stocks, but still dead nodes.

In the settings of Domoticz in the Zwave.me controller is the option

""Enable Nightly Heal Network 04:00u"

Never seen that it repaired (Heal) the network, I have it enabled, but there is no result shown (time when finished or so). That is still a mistery for me.

Grtn Ben

[Stephan83]

Since Yesterday I have a strange issue with a newly added Eurotrocs Spiritz. I added two which are working perfect (added earlier) and the last two I do not get of a Temp LaCrosse TX3 sensor. I added them in the same way. Does somebody does know this problem?

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In the picture you see the last line of the first thermostat and all lines of the last thermostat.

[Stephan83]

Since Yesterday I have a strange issue with a newly added Eurotrocs Spiritz. I added two which are working perfect (added earlier) and the last two I do not get of a Temp LaCrosse TX3 sensor. I added them in the same way. Does somebody does know this problem?

2018-10-08 22_03_10-Domoticz.png


In the picture you see the last line of the first thermostat and all lines of the last thermostat.

I fixed it!
The only thing I did as far as i can figure out is to use this line in manufacturer_specific.xml:

<Product type="0003" id="0001" name="EUR_SPIRITZ Wall Radiator Thermostat Valve Control" config="eurotronic/eur_spiritz.xml"/>

Instead of this line:

<Product type="0003" id="0003" name="EUR_SPIRITZ Wall Radiator Thermostat Valve Control" config="eurotronic/eur_spiritz.xml"/>

But As far as I can remember I tried it before with the same line.

[xumpy]

I would like to report a problem with your eur_spirit.xml under the thermostat_setpoint

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        <!-- THERMOSTAT_SETPOINT -->
        <CommandClass id="67">
                <Value type="decimal" genre="config" index="1" label="ComfortSetpoint" units="C" value="23"/>
                <Value type="decimal" genre="config" index="11" label="EnergySavingSetpoint" units="C" value="18"/>
        </CommandClass>

Domoticz can not recognize these devices when the genre paramters is "config". You should make the genre "user".
I've changed my eur_spirit.xml to the following and now I can see the device appearing as ComfortSetpoint and EnergySavingSetpoint.

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<Product sourceFile="eurotronic/eur_spirit.xml">
        <!-- BASIC -->
        <CommandClass id="32" >
                <Value type="list" genre="user"  instance="1" index="0" label="BasicFunction" min="0" max="254" value="0" size="1">
                        <Item label="Off" value="15" />
                        <Item label="Heat" value="254" />
                        <Item label="Heat Econ" value="0" />
                        <Item label="Full Power" value="240" />
                </Value>
        </CommandClass>
        <!-- THERMOSTAT_MODE -->
        <CommandClass id="64" >
                <Value type="byte" genre="config" index="1" label="Mode" units="" min="0" max="15" value="0">
                <Help> 0=Off, 1=Heat, 11=Eco, 15=FullPower </Help>
                </Value>
        </CommandClass>
        <!-- THERMOSTAT_SETPOINT -->
        <CommandClass id="67">
                <Value type="decimal" genre="user" index="1" label="ComfortSetpoint" units="C" value="23"/>
                <Value type="decimal" genre="user" index="11" label="EnergySavingSetpoint" units="C" value="18"/>
        </CommandClass>
        <!-- Configuration Parameter -->
        <CommandClass id="112">
                <Value type="byte" genre="config" index="1" label="LCDInvert" units="" value="0"/>
                <Value type="byte" genre="config" index="2" label="LCDTimeout" units="" value="0"/>
                <Value type="byte" genre="config" index="3" label="Backlight" units="" value="1"/>
                <Value type="byte" genre="config" index="4" label="BatteryReport" units="" value="1"/>
                <Value type="byte" genre="config" index="5" label="MeasuredTempReport" units="" value="5"/>
                <Value type="byte" genre="config" index="6" label="ValveopenReport" units="" value="0"/>
                <Value type="byte" genre="config" index="7" label="WindowOpenDetect" units="" value="2"/>
                <Value type="byte" genre="config" index="8" label="TempOffset" units="" value="0"/>
        </CommandClass>

</Product>

Very strange that you guys could make it work with config genre??? Never mind. For those having problems please change the genre under the thermostat_setpoint!

[tvurce]

My working config:

Added this to existing file /home/pi/domoticz/Config/manufacturer_specific.xml

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    <Manufacturer id="0148" name="EUROtronic">
                <Product type="0003" id="0001" name="EUR_SPIRIT Thermostat" config="eurotronic/eur_spirit.xml"/>
    </Manufacturer>

And create this new file /home/pi/domoticz/Config/eurotronic/eur_spirit.xml

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<Product sourceFile="eurotronic/eur_spirit.xml">
        <!-- BASIC -->
        <CommandClass id="32" >
                <Value type="list" genre="user"  instance="1" index="0" label="BasicFunction" min="0" max="254" value="0" size="1">
                        <Item label="Off" value="15" />
                        <Item label="Heat" value="254" />
                        <Item label="Heat Econ" value="0" />
                        <Item label="Full Power" value="240" />
                </Value>
        </CommandClass>
        <!-- THERMOSTAT_MODE -->
        <CommandClass id="64" >
                <Value type="byte" genre="config" index="1" label="Mode" units="" min="0" max="15" value="0">
                <Help> 0=Off, 1=Heat, 11=Eco, 15=FullPower </Help>
                </Value>
        </CommandClass>
        <!-- THERMOSTAT_SETPOINT -->
        <CommandClass id="67">
                <Value type="decimal" genre="user" index="1" label="ComfortSetpoint" units="C" value="23"/>
                <Value type="decimal" genre="user" index="11" label="EnergySavingSetpoint" units="C" value="18"/>
        </CommandClass>
        <!-- Configuration Parameter -->
        <CommandClass id="112">
                <Value type="byte" genre="config" index="1" label="LCDInvert" units="" value="0"/>
                <Value type="byte" genre="config" index="2" label="LCDTimeout" units="" value="0"/>
                <Value type="byte" genre="config" index="3" label="Backlight" units="" value="1"/>
                <Value type="byte" genre="config" index="4" label="BatteryReport" units="" value="1"/>
                <Value type="byte" genre="config" index="5" label="MeasuredTempReport" units="" value="5"/>
                <Value type="byte" genre="config" index="6" label="ValveopenReport" units="" value="0"/>
                <Value type="byte" genre="config" index="7" label="WindowOpenDetect" units="" value="2"/>
                <Value type="byte" genre="config" index="8" label="TempOffset" units="" value="0"/>
        </CommandClass>

</Product>

In Devices there is a lot of new stuff from Eurotronic now.

I assume - Temp LaCrosse TX3 - is showing actual ambient temperature measured (but it is not refreshed, so nothing usable). And one of Eurotronics - Thermostat SetPoint is for controling valve temperature for radiator. Probably this one, which synchronize with display on the valve.

There are some other setpoints for different heating modes, but not sure, how to use this. Also I am not able to see where to set Wake Up interval for this valve. Danfoss LC-13 has this settings.

[heggink]

Just installed this to replace my Popp thermostat which gave me hassle with zwave.

Using the settings in the previous post, the dry air is not the setpoint I can use + the temp sensor only showed up after a reboot. That said, it works fine for me.

[wim2008]

I am new in this forum, but I work for several years with z-wave.
I bought this week also a Eurotronic Spirit thermostate. I like to implement the thermostate in another controller.
But I like also to invert the LCD of the thermostate. But I don't understand where do to the inverting.
How can I change the settings? Is there a special program outside Domoticz? Or must I do it first in Domoticz and after the change I can go back with the device in my controller?

Regards
Wim